Is our pilot lying to us? Ground Stop due to ATC issue vs Weather? Did it matter?
Jun 3, 2023, 3:48 pm
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Is our pilot lying to us? Ground Stop due to ATC issue vs Weather? Did it matter?
427 TPA-IAH we push back and go nowhere. After 15 minutes the captain comes in and says there is a ground stop at IAH due to weather between TPA-IAH.
The FAA disagrees:
Jun 3, 2023, 3:53 pm
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Though there is some isolated convective activity along your route, probably not anything of concern. Maybe just an easier sell to pax than getting into an explanation of the "real reason" why? Either way, it's not airline-controlled.
Jun 3, 2023, 3:55 pm
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And what would be the purpose to Lie? And would it make any difference? There is a ground stop, that''s all that really matters. Pilot was probably briefed about the weather and made an assumption, but in the end what does it matter the reason. ATC or weather is treated the same.
Jun 3, 2023, 4:14 pm
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This time of year it would not be unreasonable to assume an IAH ground stop was weather related, which is likely exactly what the pilot did.
Jun 3, 2023, 4:19 pm
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Jun 3, 2023, 4:32 pm
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Well, another way to think about this: if he's not going to takeoff, you're not going to takeoff.
Sit back and enjoy the non-ride for now.
David
Sit back and enjoy the non-ride for now.
David
Jun 3, 2023, 5:57 pm
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No.
And why would you think a pilot is motivated enough to lie about anything beyond his or her control? They are just as delayed getting to where they should or want to be as you are.
And why would you think a pilot is motivated enough to lie about anything beyond his or her control? They are just as delayed getting to where they should or want to be as you are.
Jun 3, 2023, 6:03 pm
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May be political that the pilot doesn't want to publicly attribute the delays to FAA staffing: UA contract negotiation + FAA reauthorization (and still no confirmed administrator) makes for some interesting dynamics.
Jun 3, 2023, 6:05 pm
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