UA Premium Economy SFO-SIN?
Nov 28, 2020, 2:46 pm
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UA Premium Economy SFO-SIN?
I think I read on TPG that UA is going through the process of updating its 787s to their latest configuration which includes PY. A quick search for SFO-SIN show no PY availability in the fall of 2021. Am I searching properly?
Nov 28, 2020, 2:55 pm
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Additionally any schedule or equipment you see that far out are just placeholders -- note it is still showing 2 daily non-stops that far out.
When could UA start offering PremPlus on the SIN route??? next month, next quarter, late next year, 2022, ... UA has not stated a timelframe for that route.
Nov 28, 2020, 3:01 pm
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Yes, UA is adding PremiumPlus to the 787 fleet, but it is far from complete and the 787-9 (used for the SIN flight) is the least complete sub-fleet. UA will not start selling PremPlus until it can be assured it has enough aircraft to guanrantee access on a route (it is doing this ona route by route basis)
Additionally any schedule or equipment you see that far out are just placeholders -- note it is still showing 2 daily non-stops that far out.
When could UA start offering PremPlus on the SIN route??? next month, next quarter, late next year, 2022, ... UA has not stated a timelframe for that route.
Additionally any schedule or equipment you see that far out are just placeholders -- note it is still showing 2 daily non-stops that far out.
When could UA start offering PremPlus on the SIN route??? next month, next quarter, late next year, 2022, ... UA has not stated a timelframe for that route.
Nov 28, 2020, 3:03 pm
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I'm a bit surprised UA hasn't dedicated some of the retrofitted 789s to this route already so they could sell PE...
Nov 28, 2020, 3:17 pm
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Why? NH have a JV with UA?
Nov 28, 2020, 3:18 pm
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I don't think UA has enough demand to dedicate any plane to any single route right now -- demand is just too fragile and changes too often...
Nov 28, 2020, 3:22 pm
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Nov 28, 2020, 3:33 pm
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yes*, the pricing will be the same due to the JV and NH/UA filing the same fare basis
*specific flights may appear to be more expensive due to fare bucket differences, you can try to force availability on the other farebasis ticketing on 016 via gflights
there was a period this year where UA was charging YQ./YR while NH wasn't - now both aren't charging YQ/YR
*specific flights may appear to be more expensive due to fare bucket differences, you can try to force availability on the other farebasis ticketing on 016 via gflights
there was a period this year where UA was charging YQ./YR while NH wasn't - now both aren't charging YQ/YR
Nov 28, 2020, 6:54 pm
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Nov 28, 2020, 7:08 pm
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as others said, look at the JV pricing with a stop in narita connecting to ANA, or look at SQ nonstop. Should be on par if not a little less than SQ. I am expecting PE for the route, once UA makes it official, to be in high high high demand for all the contracts out of SFO, plus would be an upgrade battleground.
Nov 28, 2020, 7:10 pm
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So you expect UA to price a cabin for a route that doesn’t have that cabin? I’m so confused.
as others said, look at the JV pricing with a stop in narita connecting to ANA, or look at SQ nonstop. Should be on par if not a little less than SQ. I am expecting PE for the route, once UA makes it official, to be in high high high demand for all the contracts out of SFO, plus would be an upgrade battleground.
as others said, look at the JV pricing with a stop in narita connecting to ANA, or look at SQ nonstop. Should be on par if not a little less than SQ. I am expecting PE for the route, once UA makes it official, to be in high high high demand for all the contracts out of SFO, plus would be an upgrade battleground.
Nov 28, 2020, 7:21 pm
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announcement of what? That UA is retrofitting 787s? I don’t think the announcement was on SIN route having PE. I was only responding to your reply saying you knew there was no PE but wanted to know the pricing of PE for this route. Anyways... it’ll be a while.
Nov 28, 2020, 7:23 pm
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I think you misunderstood what I meant -- UA has planes with PY that can fly that route, but there is such chaos currently that they aren't going to bother loading fares into the system for something they don't even offer now. Yes it will come eventually -- it's just not a priority now -- and yes UA has a JV with NH -- that's why their Y and J fares coincide for TPAC (except for occasional differences in bucket availability). However, cince NH does not fly from the US to SIN direct -- there is no direct proxy - but looking at SQ will give you a good idea of what to expect - possibly a bit cheaper....
Nov 28, 2020, 8:05 pm
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Then there are 25 of the longer-range 787-9s flying for United, delivered between 2014 and 2018 and now operating key routes, such as:
While it’s not yet clear exactly when and where the new configuration will launch, I’d put my money on it quickly becoming a staple on United’s San Francisco-Singapore flights, given the premium demand for that particular market. Personally, I prefer United’s Polaris seat over Singapore’s product on the Airbus A350, due to the limited seat recline (when not in full bed mode) and the small footwell. While I’d miss Singapore’s superior service, a retrofitted United 787-9 feels like the better pick to me.
United expects the first retrofitted 787-8 Dreamliner to enter service in December 2019, with the 787-9 following a few months behind, in early 2020. Retrofitted aircraft will simply be worked into the mix initially, and they’ll be assigned to specific flights once enough become available to operate consistent service.
- Houston (IAH)-London (LHR)
- Houston (IAH)-Sydney (SYD)
- Los Angeles (LAX)-Melbourne (MEL)
- Los Angeles (LAX)-Tokyo (NRT)
- San Francisco (SFO)-Singapore (SIN)
- San Francisco (SFO)-Shanghai (PVG)
While it’s not yet clear exactly when and where the new configuration will launch, I’d put my money on it quickly becoming a staple on United’s San Francisco-Singapore flights, given the premium demand for that particular market. Personally, I prefer United’s Polaris seat over Singapore’s product on the Airbus A350, due to the limited seat recline (when not in full bed mode) and the small footwell. While I’d miss Singapore’s superior service, a retrofitted United 787-9 feels like the better pick to me.
United expects the first retrofitted 787-8 Dreamliner to enter service in December 2019, with the 787-9 following a few months behind, in early 2020. Retrofitted aircraft will simply be worked into the mix initially, and they’ll be assigned to specific flights once enough become available to operate consistent service.
I think you misunderstood what I meant -- UA has planes with PY that can fly that route, but there is such chaos currently that they aren't going to bother loading fares into the system for something they don't even offer now. Yes it will come eventually -- it's just not a priority now -- and yes UA has a JV with NH -- that's why their Y and J fares coincide for TPAC (except for occasional differences in bucket availability). However, cince NH does not fly from the US to SIN direct -- there is no direct proxy - but looking at SQ will give you a good idea of what to expect - possibly a bit cheaper....
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