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Old Sep 7, 2020, 7:23 pm
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How to waitlist J Intl when J0

I am trying to get on UA 84 on 9/29 only to have J0. Called GS and was told the option to waitlist revenue J doesn’t exist anymore. I’ve done this successfully in the past before. To be clear I am willing to pay but am told only way was to purchase Y and use an instrument to WL to J. Or just keep checking back for available inventory. This doesn’t make sense why UA would rather collect Y revenue vs J. Any thoughts or ideas appreciated.
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Old Sep 7, 2020, 7:27 pm
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Doesn't UA avoid avoid overselling J, which they would be doing if they sold you a J ticket w/ J=0?
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Old Sep 7, 2020, 7:34 pm
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Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
Doesn't UA avoid avoid overselling J, which they would be doing if they sold you a J ticket w/ J=0?

yes. Of course. But in the past I would purchase a J fare, be ticketed in Y and revenue waitlisted for J. Which in essence guaranteed number 1 on the list. Also the moment any J space opened it would immediately and automatically grab the seat. Versus award or instrument waitlist which is looking for a different class to open.
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Old Sep 7, 2020, 8:13 pm
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call again, they should be able to waitlist for J. You can buy Y and put in a waitlist for J. Once J becomes available you'll have to pay for J.
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Old Sep 7, 2020, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
call again, they should be able to waitlist for J. ....
Never, never assume the word of one agent is UA policy especially if this is something you have done in the past. Sometimes agents that don't know how to do something and make up really odd "policies"

You get 2 - 3 refusals for the same reason, then we might talk about a policy change.

Also, there may be a limit t the size of the waitlist and then the system may refuse to allow another waitlister.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 1:28 pm
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The waitlist for J-class is still open. There is one seat left for sale on the later flight as well. Nothing in the JX1 fare prohibiting waitlist reservations either.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 1:42 pm
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Yeah, it's definitely possible in the computer, but I don't know the magic words to make an agent do it. Definitely a HUCA case I think.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 2:25 pm
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Yeah, it's definitely possible in the computer, but I don't know the magic words to make an agent do it. Definitely a HUCA case I think.
The magic words are travel agent.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 3:15 pm
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call again, they should be able to waitlist for J. You can buy Y and put in a waitlist for J. Once J becomes available you'll have to pay for J.

HUCA and low and behold was able to waitlist J.....just for the record....agent said need to pay for J and then if it doesn't clear you will get a refund....not pay Y and then pay the differential upon clearing......
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 3:27 pm
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HUCA ...
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by saccoNY
HUCA and low and behold was able to waitlist J.....just for the record....agent said need to pay for J and then if it doesn't clear you will get a refund....not pay Y and then pay the differential upon clearing......
How does this work? Do you have to pay for J based on the actual "full-fare" J fare that is filed, or can you do this with lower booking classes (i.e. Z/P)?
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 6:03 pm
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Originally Posted by saccoNY
HUCA and low and behold was able to waitlist J.....just for the record....agent said need to pay for J and then if it doesn't clear you will get a refund....not pay Y and then pay the differential upon clearing......
I would have expected that to be the standard procedure. Are you suggesting that's changed?

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How does this work? Do you have to pay for J based on the actual "full-fare" J fare that is filed, or can you do this with lower booking classes (i.e. Z/P)?
SHARES would allow you to waitlist on any fare. However, per UA policy, you can only waitlist for J/O/Y (full-fare). They don't really want people waitlisting P fares.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 6:13 pm
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SHARES would allow you to waitlist on any fare. However, per UA policy, you can only waitlist for J/O/Y (full-fare). They don't really want people waitlisting P fares.
Makes sense, thanks. I assume then, that the potential refund (if J doesn't become available and the flight is flown in Y) would be based on the differential between filed J fare (paid at time of booking) & full Y fare (at time of departure)?
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 6:19 pm
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HUCA and low and behold was able to waitlist J.....just for the record....agent said need to pay for J and then if it doesn't clear you will get a refund....not pay Y and then pay the differential upon clearing......
I have been able to book Y and waitlist for D without paying for D, but YMMV.
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Old Sep 8, 2020, 6:23 pm
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Makes sense, thanks. I assume then, that the potential refund (if J doesn't become available and the flight is flown in Y) would be based on the differential between filed J fare (paid at time of booking) & full Y fare (at time of departure)?
I would expect it to be based upon the difference between the full fare J and the class you actually flew at the time of booking. I'm not certain whether that class is required to be Y or if it can be a discount bucket. That would also be a policy, not a technical, issue: SHARES would allow it, but UA might not.

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I have been able to book Y and waitlist for D without paying for D, but YMMV.
On UA? I'm surprised that they allowed you to waitlist for D.
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