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Old Jul 4, 2020, 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by wanderingkev
I think broadly we are in agreement I was inferring travel more than tourism, my point was
- When the US closed the border to Europe if you were a European but a permanent resident /green card holder you could still travel here
- On the NY group traveling I think because Sweden is an EU member , as an EU citizen I believe they would be allowed to travel although depending on where they entered they would have to meet local quarantine requirements
- The Sydney group I agree , but if Australia made the hot sheet I think point two would apply
I am pretty sure the EU requirements are based on residence not your passport, I am a Canadian citizen but live in the US, I would not be allowed to visit the EU because my residence is the US.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by dgparent
I am pretty sure the EU requirements are based on residence not your passport, I am a Canadian citizen but live in the US, I would not be allowed to visit the EU because my residence is the US.
No. I live in the US, have a German passport. Entered Germany last week, without even talking to an immigration officer. Scanned passport in Munich (flight from SFO), done.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by KCRYSTAL
Originally Posted by dgparent
I am pretty sure the EU requirements are based on residence not your passport, I am a Canadian citizen but live in the US, I would not be allowed to visit the EU because my residence is the US.
No. I live in the US, have a German passport. Entered Germany last week, without even talking to an immigration officer. Scanned passport in Munich (flight from SFO), done.
It is a little of both. Most US residents are barred but there are exemptions, one of which for Germany is those with Germany passports.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 10:29 am
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I saw a news earlier today but cannot find link anymore:

An American woman was denied transit at Paris airport on her way to the Middle East. She was on an Air France flight from the US to Paris, and was led to an isolated facility and had her passport confiscated. She was placed on a return flight back to the US. Her passport was returned to her by the flight crew upon landing in the US.

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No. I live in the US, have a German passport. Entered Germany last week, without even talking to an immigration officer. Scanned passport in Munich (flight from SFO), done.
Almost all the countries allow their own citizens and permanent residents to return home. We are talking about something different here.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by NoLaGent
If the EU ban for Americans is still in place in August, are there any UA non-EU destinations on the Continent that would be a viable alternative? I'm trying to research something similar for a colleague and hitting a wall on UA. The exception clearly being Ireland or Britain, but I'm trying to figure out something more centrally located on the Continent.
Here's a good resource:

https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 3:59 pm
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Our business, semiconductor capital equipment (large machines uses to manufacture computer chips) is having a heck of a time getting installation engineers into almost every country. We have installation teams based out of the US, Korea and China. We are finding that it's the passport that's all important. For example we can't get a team into Japan because they only currently let people from 4 countries into the country, regardless of willingness to quarantine, Vietnam, Thailand, New Zealand and Australia are the only passports allowed into Japan at the moment. Given the total lack of discipline shown by many many Americans around social distancing protocols, including mask wearing, and the resulting numbers of new cases, it's no wonder most nations won't allow Americans into their countries.
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Old Jul 4, 2020, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I saw a news earlier today but cannot find link anymore:

An American woman was denied transit at Paris airport on her way to the Middle East. She was on an Air France flight from the US to Paris, and was led to an isolated facility and had her passport confiscated. She was placed on a return flight back to the US. Her passport was returned to her by the flight crew upon landing in the US.

Apology that I could not find the news link.



Almost all the countries allow their own citizens and permanent residents to return home. We are talking about something different here.
A point was made to delineate between "citizenship" and "residence". I live in the US. I went to Germany for vacation. I was not "returning home". I was fully prepared to be asked some hard questions, e.g., where I came from, if coming from a "high-risk" state or not (per the Robert Koch Institute). I was in fact not queried at all. I did move around quite a bit, multiple states and Iceland, where I took the then free Covid test. FRA now has a Covid test, too. https://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/corona-testcenter
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 8:40 am
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Originally Posted by KCRYSTAL
No. I live in the US, have a German passport. Entered Germany last week, without even talking to an immigration officer. Scanned passport in Munich (flight from SFO), done.
That is different you have a German passport and went to Germany, the same way I could go to Canada with my Canadian passport, I was talking about people visiting the EU. You would not be allowed in Canada and since I reside in the US and not Canada I would not be allowed into Germany.
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by John Aldeborgh
Our business, semiconductor capital equipment (large machines uses to manufacture computer chips) is having a heck of a time getting installation engineers into almost every country. We have installation teams based out of the US, Korea and China. We are finding that it's the passport that's all important. For example we can't get a team into Japan because they only currently let people from 4 countries into the country, regardless of willingness to quarantine, Vietnam, Thailand, New Zealand and Australia are the only passports allowed into Japan at the moment. Given the total lack of discipline shown by many many Americans around social distancing protocols, including mask wearing, and the resulting numbers of new cases, it's no wonder most nations won't allow Americans into their countries.
I can relate to your statement. My work requires travels internationally, and now I have been grounded in the US. Just received a special visa to enter China next week, but it is not much help as I cannot visit Singapore, HK, Japan, Malaysia or do RTW to Europe before flying home. It is quite frustrating! While our competitors located in Europe and Asia are able to fly to meet potential customers and winning bids, we as Americans are losing competitive advantages without the ability to travel.

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Old Jul 5, 2020, 10:12 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I can relate to your statement. My work requires travels internationally, and now I have been grounded in the US. Just received a special visa to enter China next week, but it is not much help as I cannot visit Singapore, HK, Japan, Malaysia or do RTW to Europe before flying home. It is quite frustrating! While our competitors located in Europe and Asia are able to fly to meet potential customers and winning bids, we as Americans are losing competitive advantages without the ability to travel.
Well I've read on FT that UA and other airlines are doomed to BK because business going forth will be done via Zoom!
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 2:53 pm
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Originally Posted by John Aldeborgh
Our business, semiconductor capital equipment (large machines uses to manufacture computer chips) is having a heck of a time getting installation engineers into almost every country. We have installation teams based out of the US, Korea and China. We are finding that it's the passport that's all important. For example we can't get a team into Japan because they only currently let people from 4 countries into the country, regardless of willingness to quarantine, Vietnam, Thailand, New Zealand and Australia are the only passports allowed into Japan at the moment. Given the total lack of discipline shown by many many Americans around social distancing protocols, including mask wearing, and the resulting numbers of new cases, it's no wonder most nations won't allow Americans into their countries.
OT but your post reminded me that many years ago when I was practicing patent law, I did some work on semiconductor manufacturing patents, specifically chip washing machines.
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 7:40 pm
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So US passport holder (w/o EU resident status or passport) can't enter into any EU country right now ?

If so, what is the purpose for the flights beween US and EU ?

Can a US passport holder or a U.S. risdent with a non-US passport (w/o EU resident status or passport) connect a flight at an EU airport?
e.g. US - FRA - IST (both by lufthansa carriers or UA + lufthansa )
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by ballerinajz
So US passport holder (w/o EU resident status or passport) can't enter into any EU country right now ?

If so, what is the purpose for the flights beween US and EU ?

Can a US passport holder or a U.S. risdent with a non-US passport (w/o EU resident status or passport) connect a flight at an EU airport?
e.g. US - FRA - IST (both by lufthansa carriers or UA + lufthansa )
A Good source of Info.


https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 8:27 pm
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the map doesn't show about transit situation
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Old Jul 5, 2020, 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ballerinajz
So US passport holder (w/o EU resident status or passport) can't enter into any EU country right now? If so, what is the purpose for the flights beween US and EU?
There are lots of non-US citizens in the U.S. or transiting through the U.S. There's also lots of cargo.
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