May 16, 2020, 10:50 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
To address, the initial query, based on reports from numerous employees, a few departing senior managers (Manging Directors -- aka Level 1) will receive Premier Plat status for some period of time (5? years) but not 1K. Reports suggest there are a total of 10-20 MDs. No reports of what VPs or higher might receive but it is a much smaller population
Other travel benefits for the Management & Administrative (M&A - mid to upper management below VPs) Voluntary Separation Program (VSP2)
(Source from JonNYC)
Other travel benefits for the Management & Administrative (M&A - mid to upper management below VPs) Voluntary Separation Program (VSP2)
(Source from JonNYC)
- Choice of 250,000 UA miles or 12 one-way positive space leisure travel passes (taxable benefits)
- Active pass travel privileges for 5 years at current boarding priority, then convertible to retire pass travel program, if eligible
Severence Travel Benefits for UA employees - Plat for MgmtDir (L1), others no status
May 16, 2020, 9:12 am
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Severence Travel Benefits for UA employees - Plat for MgmtDir (L1), others no status
As there were inaccuracies in early reports on elite status for Management & Administrators (M&A - mid to upper management below VPs) Severance travel benefits offering, which generated interest what was the real answer for travel benefits for departing UA employees, have retitled this thread into a general discussion of severance travel benefits. As the wiki can be modified by most members, that will be a good way to collect this information
Please use some sensitivity in discussing this subject, as this is a difficult time for UA employees (and many others)
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Please use some sensitivity in discussing this subject, as this is a difficult time for UA employees (and many others)
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Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 17, 2020 at 6:52 am
May 16, 2020, 9:12 am
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United offering 1K status {unclear} to employees who take severance package.
They will get 1k and 250k miles. However I am happy that United is throwing them a bone.
May 16, 2020, 9:24 am
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May 16, 2020, 9:27 am
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Unfair to the fact that revenue 1ks will be competing with employee 1ks for upgrade etc. United is just doing this to save money because 1k is decently Inexpensive and they want something kind of flashy. But hey at least it’s something.
May 16, 2020, 9:28 am
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You should probably remove "Seems a bit unfair to us 1ks." They are all losing their jobs.
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May 16, 2020, 9:32 am
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oh please, 99% of 1Ks are because of their job (ie. they didnt earn it anymore than these UA employees did)
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May 16, 2020, 9:39 am
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You are right, I think just staying all cooped up is getting to me. Thanks for the correction.
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May 16, 2020, 10:04 am
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Bad info
Just re-read the offer from HR as that was news to me. No status in the package. NRSA for a number of years and a choice of miles, a handful of confirmed tickets, or neither (avoiding imputed income taxes).
Bad info. Recommend moderators close thread before false info goes further.
Bad info. Recommend moderators close thread before false info goes further.
May 16, 2020, 10:10 am
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This reference from JonNYC for the management and administrator severance package does not mention status but does mention of the potential of 250K miles
link
but a number of blogs are reporting the status piece based on Business Insider article (paywall)
link
but a number of blogs are reporting the status piece based on Business Insider article (paywall)
Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 16, 2020 at 10:20 am
May 16, 2020, 11:06 am
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Comment on one the blogs
and another blog comment
Incorrect, status is only for Level 1 employees, aka vice president and managing directors. Level 2 and higher get no status.
Also its platinum status, not 1k
Also its platinum status, not 1k
This should be fact checked better before posting. First, no employee is getting 1K status out of this, Managing Directors (less than 400 total at the company) would get Platinum status for the 5 years of active duty privileges…and that’s if they were all to leave…they won’t, you’re probably talking about 20-30ppl total that take this voluntary package. The rest of M&A get no status privileges just space available travel.
It’s funny when I hear ppl complain about offers like these, not offering full pay or large lump sums to walk away…there is NO money to be given away…this is actually a pretty solid offer especially if you value travel privileges which is key to most airline employees. Also, there are no non compete or restrictions to ppl getting jobs elsewhere and in fact they could come back to UA in the next five years and retain their seniority date. The alternative is to simply be let go October 1st with nothing, so keep that in mind.
Disclosure, I’m a UA Global Services customer and have two very close friends who work in upper management and we’ve discussed these offers in detail over the past couple of days.
It’s funny when I hear ppl complain about offers like these, not offering full pay or large lump sums to walk away…there is NO money to be given away…this is actually a pretty solid offer especially if you value travel privileges which is key to most airline employees. Also, there are no non compete or restrictions to ppl getting jobs elsewhere and in fact they could come back to UA in the next five years and retain their seniority date. The alternative is to simply be let go October 1st with nothing, so keep that in mind.
Disclosure, I’m a UA Global Services customer and have two very close friends who work in upper management and we’ve discussed these offers in detail over the past couple of days.
May 16, 2020, 11:07 am
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Losing my job due to incompetent mismanagement and greed, and then being tossed a few miles or tickets from a company I probably never want to see again, is not exactly a severance package I would be interested in. How about a properly funded pension and a reasonable severance package that includes cash I can use? Who cares about miles. This is nothing but useless PR fluff trying to cover for the fact that Kirby gave billions to shareholders instead of making sure his business could weather a dramatic travel recession similar to 9-11 or 2007 - events that have already happened, but could have repeated again at any time, and are therefore prudent situations to plan for.
May 16, 2020, 11:18 am
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