Stranded in the Dominican Republic + US State Dept Resource @ 888.407.4747
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It seems a lot of country's embassies in Central/South America are having difficulties in getting good information to share with their citizens in the complex communication mine-field of local and central governments, airports and airlines. But I'm glad the USA DR's embassy is getting that info out. I'm getting messages similar to STEP from Dutch embassies across the continent, well, I think you're better off buying a lotto ticket - except for the one in BsAs, they actually posted useful flight information.
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So far, nothing from STEP. But the embassy posted an hour ago that:
”US citizens and Permanent Legal Residents are authorized to leave the Dominican Republic during the current 15 day state of emergency that started on March 19th on carriers to the United States. However each individual airline is determining those flights..............
............. the following airlines have indicated to us that they intend to provide those flights. Individuals are advised to contact those airlines directly”.
What then follows is a list of the six airlines and their contact info. AMerican, Jet Blue, Delta, Frontier, Southwest, and Sun Country.
Notably ABSENT is United. IMO they’ve dropped the ball big time on this. And I can only guess that it’s a smaller version of what has happened with cancelled flights to larger markets such as Europe and Asia.
”US citizens and Permanent Legal Residents are authorized to leave the Dominican Republic during the current 15 day state of emergency that started on March 19th on carriers to the United States. However each individual airline is determining those flights..............
............. the following airlines have indicated to us that they intend to provide those flights. Individuals are advised to contact those airlines directly”.
What then follows is a list of the six airlines and their contact info. AMerican, Jet Blue, Delta, Frontier, Southwest, and Sun Country.
Notably ABSENT is United. IMO they’ve dropped the ball big time on this. And I can only guess that it’s a smaller version of what has happened with cancelled flights to larger markets such as Europe and Asia.
I said that to emphasize the following comment: Wow, it looks like United is really acting like a bad actor here. At this point it's not about profits or business models; it's about national solidarity, and getting Americans home before it's too late. This is not in any sense business as usual, and every nation around the world is relying on its own airlines to do that emergency job. United is not short of airplanes, crew, or anything but money -- and like every other airline, they're asking (not unreasonably) for financial help from the US government. So this would be an awfully good time to step up and show willingness to help US residents get home. If freakin' Sun Country and Frontier can operate flights to get Americans home from the D.R., United should too. Now, maybe all the airlines agreed that there's too much capacity and they should divvy up the work (United does this country, JetBlue does that one). In which case United needs to proactively get passengers rebooked!
I'm completely open to learning that there's more to this than my naive perception... but right now I'm genuinely disappointed and ashamed of "my" airline.
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This is an example of an airline ding the right thing:
Sunwing offers available seats on repatriation flights to stranded Canadians for free
Sunwing offers available seats on repatriation flights to stranded Canadians for free
TORONTO, March 19, 2020 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Sunwing is offering available seats on its repatriation flights from southern destinations to stranded Canadians, free of charge – including for non-Sunwing customers.
“We understand a lot of Canadians are still stranded outside the country and struggling to get home,” said Stephen Hunter, CEO of Sunwing Travel Group. “That’s why we want to open up any extra capacity we have. It’s the Canadian thing to do.”
As part of its ongoing efforts to repatriate Sunwing customers, the travel company is bringing home approximately an additional 11,000 Canadians today, which will bring the total number of repatriated Sunwing customers to over 33,000.
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“We understand a lot of Canadians are still stranded outside the country and struggling to get home,” said Stephen Hunter, CEO of Sunwing Travel Group. “That’s why we want to open up any extra capacity we have. It’s the Canadian thing to do.”
As part of its ongoing efforts to repatriate Sunwing customers, the travel company is bringing home approximately an additional 11,000 Canadians today, which will bring the total number of repatriated Sunwing customers to over 33,000.
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United has kept their European routes going all week, without a whole lot of passengers. How many flights did they have to the entire DR per day?
Last Wednesday I strongly encouraged my friends traveling outside the US to bail on what they were doing and get back on Thursday. With the European "ban" last Friday night, it didn't really matter where you were, the airports and airlines were going to be totally screwed. Most were already doing so, but one or two decided to stick it out, and they're now in the OPs position. Get creative, since I can't think of too many routes that are completely shut down.
Not to blame the OP here, but this isn't the time for anyone to keep a vacation going. You rolled the dice on things not getting bad, and they've gotten really bad. Do what you have to do to get back now, and save the blaming for after you're back home.
Last Wednesday I strongly encouraged my friends traveling outside the US to bail on what they were doing and get back on Thursday. With the European "ban" last Friday night, it didn't really matter where you were, the airports and airlines were going to be totally screwed. Most were already doing so, but one or two decided to stick it out, and they're now in the OPs position. Get creative, since I can't think of too many routes that are completely shut down.
Not to blame the OP here, but this isn't the time for anyone to keep a vacation going. You rolled the dice on things not getting bad, and they've gotten really bad. Do what you have to do to get back now, and save the blaming for after you're back home.
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Back in the USA.
I landed at JFK. On the train home now. Kudos to Jet Blue for doing the right thing for its customers. And for making available at a fair price the extra seats.
But now here’s something that’s unfortunate. There were actually some unsold/empty seats on the flight back! I was in row 3 and had an empty middle seat next to me, with 3 more middle seats empty in front of me. (Not sure about behind me? People were actually very good about staying in their seats and not strolling around).
Think about it for a minute. With a simple message from United along the lines of “Unfortunately we are not in a position to provide return travel from the Dominican Republic. However the following airlines will be providing flights in the next (1-2-3-4.) days. Please contact them directly to book return travel”.
They could have sent this in a text /email/VM to all the folks they stranded there. Or just post it on their website. But they didn’t. And I’m sure some people have been left behind who could have been sitting next to me today.
But now here’s something that’s unfortunate. There were actually some unsold/empty seats on the flight back! I was in row 3 and had an empty middle seat next to me, with 3 more middle seats empty in front of me. (Not sure about behind me? People were actually very good about staying in their seats and not strolling around).
Think about it for a minute. With a simple message from United along the lines of “Unfortunately we are not in a position to provide return travel from the Dominican Republic. However the following airlines will be providing flights in the next (1-2-3-4.) days. Please contact them directly to book return travel”.
They could have sent this in a text /email/VM to all the folks they stranded there. Or just post it on their website. But they didn’t. And I’m sure some people have been left behind who could have been sitting next to me today.
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Good idea, but UA is swamped and has LOTS of destinations each of which has different issues. At times like these you need to think and act for yourself. Thankfully, yu did.
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I mean, while this is undoubtedly true, let's not overlook the fact that this was an absolute disaster by UA. Assuming the profile is correct, OP is a 1K and still got absolutely no help from UA -- who, to add insult to injury, will presumably refuse even to refund the portion of the fare that wasn't flown.
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Seems like UA dropped the ball here. Bad on them. But you also need to take some responsibility here as this was a “roll the dice” time to take a Dom Rep vacation.
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I mean, while this is undoubtedly true, let's not overlook the fact that this was an absolute disaster by UA. Assuming the profile is correct, OP is a 1K and still got absolutely no help from UA -- who, to add insult to injury, will presumably refuse even to refund the portion of the fare that wasn't flown.
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Yes, that's what they'll do. But that's not a refund. It's hard for me to get excited about buying a UA flight right now. I think I'd prefer cash... especially if UA had just stranded me in the Caribbean.
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I mean, while this is undoubtedly true, let's not overlook the fact that this was an absolute disaster by UA. Assuming the profile is correct, OP is a 1K and still got absolutely no help from UA -- who, to add insult to injury, will presumably refuse even to refund the portion of the fare that wasn't flown.
But in normal times, it is a great place to vacation.
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Problem was not of UAs making and one has to admit these circumstances are extraordinary. It is a bit harsh to lay blame on airlines in this difficult time.