TPG Reviewer Sits in Wrong Seat, Blames UA for Subpar Experience
#46
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I haven't read a TPG article in several eons with at least one dumb mistake that would have been caught by even one round of editing.
Best coming to FT to rip on them - you don't want to find out what happens to you if you do it in their comment section.
Best coming to FT to rip on them - you don't want to find out what happens to you if you do it in their comment section.
#49
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Who says the fa was moody the entire flight, Einstein the reviewer? Sometimes we are having a great flight but that one pita pax can rub us the wrong way.
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#50
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I am totally disappointed in this reviewer and it does not live up to TPG standards. Can you believe he forgot to hock a third Chase credit card in the post??? "Thankfully, a different, cheery and very friendly member of crew explained to me that for $10 I had a choice of three different snack boxes. I decided to go for what seemed to be the healthiest, tapas. For that purchase I used my United Explorer card which offers 25% back on food, beverage and Wi-Fi purchases on board and 2 points for every dollar spent on United, earning me a total of 15 Mileage Plus miles for eating a disgusting snack box. At the current valuation of $0.000000002/mile, the tapas therefore only cost me $7.49999997."
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Speaking of race to the bottom, anyone seen the TPG review of EWR-LAX in Y? The reviewer paid $142 for E+ then sat in an E- seat by mistake. Just plain bizarre.
Missed the Mark: Review of UA 777-200 in Economy
The comments are the best part.
Missed the Mark: Review of UA 777-200 in Economy
The comments are the best part.
"A member of the ground team came to me and asked my name then said I was sitting in the wrong seat. Typical me! I said I would move, but he said it would be fine, as the seat was exactly the same. Once he left, I noticed little blue stickers on the overhead lockers halfway down the aisle which signaled where the Economy Plus seats were, and I quickly realized I wasn’t in one."
These are common mistakes (sitting in the wrong seat). I've done it from time to time, but I fly so much on US airlines - which unlike European airlines have blocks of E+ seats - I would immediately know I was not in the right seat if it was E-. The mistake was understandable, the FA giving incorrect information was NOT understandable. They should have checked/known. Unfortunately this guy was too passive, should have gotten up and demanded his seat once he realized the deal...
So a chain of mistakes, I certainly don't read a lot into it. Guy is - as he discloses - an infrequent UA traveler and a Brit.... He also makes clear it was his mistake. Had he had his E+ seat, not sure if would have fixed many of the problems he identified on what basically everyone on this board acknowledges is a really, really bad plane in Y, worst of the worst.
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I can understand missing your seat by a row, since the numbers don't always line up exactly over the middle of the seats they refer to. However, by the seat map, he missed his seat by at least 2 rows, as the row immediately behind his assigned seat was also E+. I'm not exactly sure how that happens...
#53
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Not sure the hubuhb about the review other than the (meaningless to begin with) score seems high vs what was written. Writer didn't blame UA for the seating mistake.
#54
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Honestly, if you want to see similar content, follow the UA twitter feed. It would be a laff a minute, if it wasn't such a troubling window into what people think is worthy of complaining about.
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#55
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Two things here.
First, his point about the UA 772 going from nine across to ten is valid. And of course there is no additional storage space, lavs, etc for those extra folks.
Second, did he get knocked out of his paid E+ seat for an E- seat? Seems like he might have as he was not going to get a comp E+ coach meal until he showed his BP.
Thanks.
First, his point about the UA 772 going from nine across to ten is valid. And of course there is no additional storage space, lavs, etc for those extra folks.
Second, did he get knocked out of his paid E+ seat for an E- seat? Seems like he might have as he was not going to get a comp E+ coach meal until he showed his BP.
Thanks.
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Two things here.
First, his point about the UA 772 going from nine across to ten is valid. And of course there is no additional storage space, lavs, etc for those extra folks.
Second, did he get knocked out of his paid E+ seat for an E- seat? Seems like he might have as he was not going to get a comp E+ coach meal until he showed his BP.
Thanks.
First, his point about the UA 772 going from nine across to ten is valid. And of course there is no additional storage space, lavs, etc for those extra folks.
Second, did he get knocked out of his paid E+ seat for an E- seat? Seems like he might have as he was not going to get a comp E+ coach meal until he showed his BP.
Thanks.
A member of the ground team came to me and asked my name then said I was sitting in the wrong seat. Typical me! I said I would move, but he said it would be fine, as the seat was exactly the same. Once he left, I noticed little blue stickers on the overhead lockers halfway down the aisle which signaled where the Economy Plus seats were, and I quickly realized I wasn’t in one
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I find it poor form the way in which we are roasting the blogger and attacking him personally, as if he has anything to do with the subject matter i.e. experience on a UA transcontinental flight on a 772. He could be sitting in the lavatory or a jump seat the whole flight for all I care but it does not change the facts as stated.
If we choose to discuss the facts, rather than his interpretation, or the attributes of person who wrote it, then we will see that he still has written a very reasonable account of the experience for a non-elite flying in a 772 in Y on a transcontinental flight. His account reminds me why I will never fly this route on a 772 in Y and why being a premier elite and having TSA pre is important if one travels through EWR.
For those who are castigating the blogger you are more than welcome to sit in a middle seat, or any seat, on a ten accross Y 777 with no IFE for six hours, poor lavatory ratio, relatively limited overhead space, indeed as close to a cattle car as one can get in a UA airplane; he clearly misrepresented flying a United 772 the world's best economy transcontinental experience...
If we choose to discuss the facts, rather than his interpretation, or the attributes of person who wrote it, then we will see that he still has written a very reasonable account of the experience for a non-elite flying in a 772 in Y on a transcontinental flight. His account reminds me why I will never fly this route on a 772 in Y and why being a premier elite and having TSA pre is important if one travels through EWR.
For those who are castigating the blogger you are more than welcome to sit in a middle seat, or any seat, on a ten accross Y 777 with no IFE for six hours, poor lavatory ratio, relatively limited overhead space, indeed as close to a cattle car as one can get in a UA airplane; he clearly misrepresented flying a United 772 the world's best economy transcontinental experience...
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#58
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That's changing...TAP now has economy plus extra legroom seating forward of the wing on intra-Europe
Not sure the hubuhb about the review other than the (meaningless to begin with) score seems high vs what was written. Writer didn't blame UA for the seating mistake.
Not sure the hubuhb about the review other than the (meaningless to begin with) score seems high vs what was written. Writer didn't blame UA for the seating mistake.
I agree on not the hubuhb, and also that his review seemed to be better than I would have given vs what he wrote. I see the mistake as being UA's compounded by someone who evidently did not know the golden rule - don't believe anything UA tells you....
Interested in TAP. My theory has always been that E+ caught on in the US given (a) Americans are bigger than others in the world on average, and (b) our flights are longer. I'm just under 6'2" and while I can put up with 31" pitch for an hour or two, I can't do it for much longer.... But few flights in Europe are longer, unlike those in the US...
Perhaps TAP is far enough to one side of Europe that it is doing longer flights, but will be interesting to see if their approach sticks/spreads.
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I find it poor form the way in which we are roasting the blogger and attacking him personally, as if he has anything to do with the subject matter i.e. experience on a UA transcontinental flight on a 772. He could be sitting in the lavatory or a jump seat the whole flight for all I care but it does not change the facts as stated.
If we choose to discuss the facts, rather than his interpretation, or the attributes of person who wrote it, then we will see that he still has written a very reasonable account of the experience for a non-elite flying in a 772 in Y on a transcontinental flight. His account reminds me why I will never fly this route on a 772 in Y and why being a premier elite and having TSA pre is important if one travels through EWR.
For those who are castigating the blogger you more than welcome to sit in a middle seat, or any seat, on a ten accross Y 777 with no IFE for six hours; he clearly misrepresented flying a United 772 the world's best economy transcontinental experience...
If we choose to discuss the facts, rather than his interpretation, or the attributes of person who wrote it, then we will see that he still has written a very reasonable account of the experience for a non-elite flying in a 772 in Y on a transcontinental flight. His account reminds me why I will never fly this route on a 772 in Y and why being a premier elite and having TSA pre is important if one travels through EWR.
For those who are castigating the blogger you more than welcome to sit in a middle seat, or any seat, on a ten accross Y 777 with no IFE for six hours; he clearly misrepresented flying a United 772 the world's best economy transcontinental experience...
He may have valid points, but they get lost among the numerous examples of incompetence.
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