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rmannion Oct 11, 2019 3:59 pm

I'm a 100% leisure traveller who relied on the CC PQD waiver to reach Platinum the past few years. I have no future with UA now. It was nice while it lasted...

JHake10 Oct 11, 2019 4:02 pm

Bring on the west coast I moved over to AS. Sure they don’t have the same network but it’s a good FF program and they have decent partners.

onthesam Oct 11, 2019 4:25 pm

Last few years my spend has ranged from $13-20k annually at +/- 110,000 PQM on 35-65 PQS. To maintain 1K status, I've done a couple of Q3 PQM runs. One year I SDC'd a Christmas Eve LAX-DEN-ORD to LAX-SFO-ORD to round out at 100,004 :D.

I'm going to have to wait and see what I do as no matter what, I'm still going to be hubbed in here in Chicago.

If UA materially enhances (actually enhances, not "enhances") 1K benefits, I'll likely reach for $24k by bringing some OAL travel to over to UA and taking an additional TATL trip .

Otherwise my last-minute, front-of-plane travel will go to free agency, with UA at the bottom of the totem pole (well, maybe ahead of WN -- I live off the blue line). Receiving gold benefits for spending $20k on 23-44 actual segments is not a significant enough inducement for me to stay on UA. It also leaves a bad taste in my mouth after all these years of flying the "hometown airline."

I post this on my 32nd anniversary as a MP member.

Arnon Oct 11, 2019 5:05 pm

This year, as 1K, I am re-qualifying with:
~120,000 PQM
~44.5 PQS
~$6,000 PQD

I don't live in the US, and in fact I can't even start any itinerary on United from Denmark (I usually fly off to LHR, BRU, FRA, MUC or AMS to get on a United flight to the US).

I wish I knew about this earlier, I'd have moved my stuff last year. I'll either go for LH or SK. LH and OS treat me better on board anyway.

So long United!

zebranz Oct 11, 2019 5:53 pm

It's like trading stamps that my mother used to save. Everyone did it, and now, you ask someone about it and unless you're a boomer, all you get is a blank stare.[/QUOTE]

Can I trade in my books of S&H for status? Or would that make me over entitled?

zebranz Oct 11, 2019 6:05 pm


Originally Posted by Arnon (Post 31618854)
This year, as 1K, I am re-qualifying with:
~120,000 PQM
~44.5 PQS
~$6,000 PQD

I don't live in the US, and in fact I can't even start any itinerary on United from Denmark (I usually fly off to LHR, BRU, FRA, MUC or AMS to get on a United flight to the US).

I wish I knew about this earlier, I'd have moved my stuff last year. I'll either go for LH or SK. LH and OS treat me better on board anyway.

So long United!

I am similar and would imagine if you are mostly not on UA metal or UA ticket stock the same pattern would give enough for 1K again. I am assuming travel in biz class. Waiting for the dust to settle and have nothing to do and will try to evaluate 2019 travel in the new program. Has anyone played with the comparison?

cagcag Oct 11, 2019 7:07 pm

100+K already booked for 2020 travel
 
I won't be eligible for continuing 1K status based on miles plus spend

Itineraries are combinations of UA and NH. Where would be the most advantageous to switch FF Programs and then credit these UA K miles?

Multiple EWR-KUL trips purchased for 2020 travel. ALL have schedule changes. What's the chance of refunding all of these itineraries due to multiple schedule changes?
Should I do this with 1K desk? Would it be better to do cancellations one by one on different telephone contacts, or does it not make a difference?

STS-134 Oct 11, 2019 7:08 pm


Originally Posted by cagcag (Post 31619139)
I won't be eligible for continuing 1K status based on miles plus spend

Itineraries are combinations of UA and NH. Where would be the most advantageous to switch FF Programs and then credit these UA K miles?

OZ and A3 come to mind. You should go way past the *G qualification requirements for either of them.

cagcag Oct 11, 2019 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by STS-134 (Post 31619143)
OZ and A3 come to mind. You should go way past the *G qualification requirements for either of them.

Thanks. Just as I thought. What about TK? I am 1MM with UA, so lifetime *G (for the time being).

STS-134 Oct 11, 2019 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by cagcag (Post 31619152)
Thanks. Just as I thought. What about TK?

TK will match but I think it's probably easier to maintain *G on A3 or OZ.

cagcag Oct 11, 2019 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by STS-134 (Post 31619157)
TK will match but I think it's probably easier to maintain *G on A3 or OZ.

Thanks.

SS255 Oct 11, 2019 7:46 pm

I’ve had such a great day today. It’s the first day since I first qualified for US Airways Gold status in 2002 that I literally have not given a moment’s thought as to how I would re-qualify for status on any airline after this year!

Going forward, my energies will be spent on finding discounted F/J or sniping for TOD’s, and I can nuke my 1K spreadsheet! (It’s like the airline equivalent of a mortgage-burning party.)

I can probably hit UA Platinum if I try, but I won’t think about it unless toward the end of the year I find myself getting close. I feel fabulous!!!

fumje Oct 11, 2019 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 31618539)
Yes, only a moderator can do it and it can only be a single question, with a single response (out of a max of 10 choices).

Thanks. I suggest the below simplified question.

Perhaps we can wait until tomorrow to see if there are good suggestions for additions or changes. It would be nice to capture knock-on effects like credit cards or MM qualification, but with one question only I think this is a good focus. I'm not sure if Hawaiian merits specific mention.


Will you switch frequent flyer programs / what will you switch to?
[ ] no change (stay with UA)
[ ] change to American Airlines
[ ] change to Delta Air Lines
[ ] change to Alaska Airlines
[ ] change to non-US Star Alliance (please post which program)
[ ] change to non-US Oneworld (please post which program)
[ ] change to non-US SkyTeam (please post which program)
[ ] split alliances / programs (please post which programs)
[ ] cease preference for any program

tr3k Oct 11, 2019 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by cesco.g (Post 31617862)
What might prompt your move back to UA?

The fact that I can potentially obtain a *G status with UA this year, while I could not last year (which is why I went with another *A member instead). I don't fly UA much, and I certainly don't spend anywhere near what they wanted, nor do I hold a Chase card for the waiver. But flying approx. 60K "award" miles a year on other *A carriers is within the realm of possibility. I have flown 90K "award" miles based on Eurobonus count last year (although they are somewhat more generous with certain other carrier's earning).

UA Gold is a bit more valuable to me than other airline's *G as it gives me an occasional upgrade, if I do fly domestic (or to the Caribbean), possibly an E+ seat here and there, and also improves my use of UA miles (which are more valuable than Eurobonus miles, for example).

That said, I still won't fly UA much due to their poor service and terrible food.

garykung Oct 11, 2019 10:03 pm


Originally Posted by cagcag (Post 31619139)
Should I do this with 1K desk? Would it be better to do cancellations one by one on different telephone contacts, or does it not make a difference?

How you do it won't make a difference.


Originally Posted by zebranz (Post 31619300)
On the other hand, what benefit is there (next year) to change from the foreign to the US address?

Nothing really. Even before PQD, I rarely receive any promotional offers from UA.


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