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Originally Posted by joe_miami
(Post 31617789)
Switched to AA this year because of a change in flying pattern and also because the writing was on the wall with UA. Happy to have done so. Sad day for MP, though. It used to be a great program.
For people who travel mostly within the Americas, these changes are particularly brutal. |
Originally Posted by joe_miami
(Post 31617789)
Switched to AA this year because of a change in flying pattern and also because the writing was on the wall with UA. Happy to have done so. Sad day for MP, though. It used to be a great program.
For people who travel mostly within the Americas, these changes are particularly brutal. Regards |
OP - Can you add a poll? (and include 'won't be loyal to any one program' / kayak it as an option?)
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Originally Posted by tr3k
(Post 31616457)
Might be coming back to UA (after spending a year away as a Eurobonus Diamond). We'll see.
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Originally Posted by oopsz
(Post 31617820)
AA is a weird program to redeem in right now. Nonstop flights from MIA-DFW are running 35k, but I can still easily find J class to europe for 57.5k.
Originally Posted by scubadu
(Post 31617831)
Don't worry, as a long time AA flier, I can promise that they make their share of "enhancements" every year as well. Today just happens to be UA's day.
Regards |
I was platinum last year and gold this year. I will become a free agent and start flying ME3. I need to do work trips to South Asia and ME3 would be a far superior flying experience.
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I'm being thinned from the herd and also I'm becoming a free agent like many. I’m on 50% “other people’s money” and 50% my own. The increasing spend and the corresponding value I get, make the cost-benefit ratio not worth it for me. I live in a Delta hub city, but choose to fly UA. Part nostalgia, part global network.
But, this year dropping to Plat and for 2020 I’m finally letting 1K lapse and I will just book on what’s most convenient. I think I’ll always place a preference on UA, but will place a greater importance on convenience/product over loyalty. I’m already buying up front for personal trips and am sitting on 9 GPUs that will die come 1/31. So, it’s not like those help dissuade me. Absent anything new and amazing with my United Club Card benefits, I’m dropping that and switching to Sapphire Reserve. So, for UA, that’s two diminishing revenue streams from me. |
Originally Posted by Aussienarelle
(Post 31615759)
So with the new requirements, although I will be a 1K for 2020, I will not be close to anything close to Platinum for 2021. I will be Gold due to 1MM status.
I fly TATL to London/Europe 2-3 times a year and TPAC 2-3 times a year. I do fly an assortment of airlines but am looking for the program that will give me the best bang for my buck to try and do a status match or start earning status. I am based in SAN so can position myself to LAX if needed for flight origination. Try to find a new FF program or just wing it? I think NZ may be the way to go as they go to both London and Sydney...I can then also use my *G benefits. Or perhaps LH for the *G benefits So will not be a status match but at least leverage my *G benefits.
Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 31615834)
If you're talking about finding a new FFP in which to earn *G, LH is among the hardest to earn *G. IIRC TK, OZ, and A3 are among the easier to earn *Gs out there.
Originally Posted by joe_miami
(Post 31617789)
Switched to AA this year because of a change in flying pattern and also because the writing was on the wall with UA. Happy to have done so. Sad day for MP, though. It used to be a great program.
For people who travel mostly within the Americas, these changes are particularly brutal.
Originally Posted by scubadu
(Post 31617831)
Don't worry, as a long time AA flier, I can promise that they make their share of "enhancements" every year as well. Today just happens to be UA's day.
With the majority of ffp's, benefits are reducing and ff mile award/upgrade costs are going up. Status & upgrades are now harder to get. The halcyon days of frequent flyer programs a decade ago are gone: just accept reality. FF miles & benefits are a side product of flying to where you want to go: not the reason to travel.
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Originally Posted by seanp7
(Post 31617850)
OP - Can you add a poll? (and include 'won't be loyal to any one program' / kayak it as an option?)
I propose the following poll questions: Will you switch frequent flyer programs? [ ] yes (including switching to no program / free agent) [ ] no Will you primarily credit to a US based frequent flyer program? [ ] yes, UA [ ] yes, not UA [ ] no What alliance will you use? {allow multiple selections} [ ] Star Alliance [ ] Oneworld [ ] SkyTeam [ ] none Open to suggestions for improvement. |
not stay. Flying fastest, cheapest, most direct, in class of service that I want.
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Why not specifically list all of the (major) USA based FF programs? IIRC you can have questions with up to about ten multiple answer responses.
In the first question, I'd make free agent and other program different choices. Maybe ask about switching away from UA credit cards? Maybe also some question about whether one will continue to strive for UA MM status, although of course it's better if the poll isn't too long. |
I have 1.5 million miles and was aiming for 2million by the time I slow down on flying - a little insurance for any MM devaluation. But this change means I will get nowhere near 1K so will no longer earn GPUs or points or whatever they are now called.
My initial reaction is to use up my remaining upgrades for this and next year and focus on BA instead. But then I just got off a miserable UA flight with FAs from hell. |
Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 31618268)
Maybe it needs a moderator to do it.,...
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Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 31618268)
I am not sure if the new OP can add. I was originally the OP (another earlier thread merged into this), and I cannot see a way. Maybe it needs a moderator to do it.
I propose the following poll questions: Will you switch frequent flyer programs? [ ] yes (including switching to no program / free agent) [ ] no Will you primarily credit to a US based frequent flyer program? [ ] yes, UA [ ] yes, not UA [ ] no What alliance will you use? {allow multiple selections} [ ] Star Alliance [ ] Oneworld [ ] SkyTeam [ ] none Open to suggestions for improvement. |
2020 will be burn, baby burn - UA miles and upgrades. Will keep Explorer card for CPUs on awards, then cancel 2021. Will not renew UC membership (was on the fence already).
I will continue to fly TPAC CX in paid J (and the occasional EK and JL) and accrue those trips to AS, to renew at 75K. AS will also see additional west coast and Hawaii traffic from me. T-cons (NYC, BOS) in paid front cabin will go first to B6, second to DL. I see spend on UA dropping drastically from currently levels (will finish this year over $20k) - could easily be under $5k next year on upgradeable tickets only. |
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