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Originally Posted by GoSh4rks (Post 31420842)

That's 43,120 cm^3. Or 43.1 L. A full or even somewhat full 75L pack is nowhere close to conforming with the size limit.

Good point.

Without truncating the conversion —

22" × 14" × 9" = (22×2.54)cm × (14×2.54)cm × (9×2.54)cm = 45.4 L

— and then adding the personal item —

17" × 10" × 9" = (17×2.54)cm × (10×2.54)cm × (9×2.54)cm = 25.1 L

— I total 70.5 L, which means 4.5 extraneous Nalgenes are being sneaked aboard in that 75 L pack!

Well, en route from EWR to GVA at the moment. I appreciate all feedback. On my return trip next week I will be checking my backpack for the flight home. Thanks for the constructive criticism. And again, sorry for referencing the female pax. She was not relevant to the conversation.

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Originally Posted by ekwang (Post 31421272)

In front on the widebodies (typical aircraft for GVA-EWR), the overhead space isn't very restricted. It's only on narrowbodies (e.g., EWR-PDX) that the exact dimensions make a lot of difference.

So on your return, if it makes any difference to you, and assuming no challenge from check-in or gate agent, you could carry the oversize pack for the int'l leg and then check it when you connect.

I randomly picked a 75L backpack from eBags. The listed dimension is 34" x 14.3" x 10.3", or 58.6 linear dimension inches (adding width + length + height)

UA's maximum dimension for carry-on bags is 24" x 14" x 9", or 45 linear dimension inches. Also, it appears that United changed the COC, and carry-on bags are restricted via linear dimensions vs. linear dimension inches. Here is Rule 23.B.2:

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Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance - UA will accept one piece of Carry-on Baggage free of charge, which, for purposes of this Rule, is referred to as the “Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance”, and one personal item such as a shoulder bag, backpack, briefcase, laptop bag or similar item, except, however, UA will not accept any Carry-on Baggage for passengers traveling on a Basic Economy fare and Basic Economy passengers whose baggage is checked at the gate will be charged the applicable checked bag service charge, plus a 25 USD/25 CAD gate handling service charge. Carry-on Baggage must not exceed the Maximum Outside Linear Dimensions of 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm), which includes its wheels and handles. Personal items must not exceed 9 inches (22 cm) x 10 inches (25 cm) x 17 inches (43 cm), which includes any wheels and handles. A personal item that exceeds these maximum linear dimensions but is not greater than 9 inches (22 cm) x 14 inches (35 cm) x 22 inches (56 cm) will be considered as Carry-on Baggage. Carry-on Baggage or personal items suspected of being oversized may require being placed into a sizing unit to determine acceptability. Carry-on Baggage that exceeds the Maximum Linear Dimensions allowed or that exceeds the Carry-on Free Baggage Allowance will be considered as Checked Baggage and is subject to Checked Baggage service charges.

(Emphasis added)

Unless OP somehow shrunk the bag by 10" by not overpacking, it is not compliant as a carry-on bag.

Also, FWIW, checked-bag is still measured by linear dimension inches (62 inches is the maximum without oversize charge).

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Originally Posted by PTahCha (Post 31423178)

UA's maximum dimension for carry-on bags is 24" x 14" x 9", or 45 linear dimension inches. Also, it appears that United changed the COC, and carry-on bags are restricted via linear dimensions vs. linear dimension inches.

Is that a change? They've been using sizers for years, and the sizers enforce the dimensions. (I think the contrast you want is dimensions vs. "linear dimensions," which isn't really a thing in any context except for the shipping world).

It is true that some agents will routinely ignore the posted rules for odd-shaped items that will clearly fit in the overhead (garment bags, poster tubes, etc.)

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Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 31423651)

Yes, while sizers have been out there for a while, the previous policy was based on linear dimensions (i.e., adding up the length, width, and height) and not based on specific dimensions. It appears that the COC has been updated for enforce specific length/width/height.

Also, I was trying to point out that under either the old or new policy, OP's bag would not be compliant.

Backpacks as carry-on = PITA for all other passengers in one way or another!

***Backpacks are for hiking, not FLYING!***

....and I now have a small backpack too....resisted for 20+ years and a few months ago finally and with much disdain, I succumbed.... :(

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Originally Posted by fumje (Post 31421282)

So on your return, if it makes any difference to you, and assuming no challenge from check-in or gate agent, you could carry the oversize pack for the int'l leg and then check it when you connect.

While he might get away with it, I still maintain that a 75 liter backpack is way over the line and it's rude to even think about taking it onboard as a carry-on unless it has its own ticket. I've seen even widebodies pressed for overhead bin space (though not as much in the front cabin). It'd be a bit different if it was a 35-40 liter daypack and a 25 liter "personal item" because they're separable and can be moved around to optimize space but real backpacks take up a lot of space. Note their volumetric rating is based on what they will hold, not what they take up. In addition to whatever's in the pack itself, you have straps, hip belt, pads, etc.