View Poll Results: No longer transfer Chase UR→UA @ 1:1 ratio (or at all)? What to do? What to do?
[NO] UA Card, [NO] Ultimate Rewards Card → [NO CHANGE] I still don't want any UA/UR Chase product
7.94%
[✓] UA Card, [NO] Ultimate Rewards Card → [NO CHANGE] I keep my UA card and [DO NOT] carry UR card.
9.35%
[✓] UA Card, [NO] Ultimate Rewards Card → [I KEEP] my UA card(s) and [ADD] UR Chase card(s).
3.74%
[✓] UA Card, [NO] Ultimate Rewards Card → [I CLOSE] Chase UA card and [DO NOT WANT] a UR Chase card.
1.87%
[NO] UA Card, [✓] Ultimate Rewards Card → [NO CHANGE] I dont carry a UA card and I [KEEP] my UR card
26.17%
[NO] UA Card, [✓] Ultimate Rewards Card → I [ADD] a UA card and I [CLOSE] my UR card.
0
0%
[✓] UA Card, [✓] Ultimate Rewards Card → [NO CHANGE], I keep [BOTH] my UA and UR Chase cards.
24.77%
[✓] UA Card, [✓] Ultimate Rewards Card → I [CLOSE] my UA card(s) and [KEEP] my UR card(s).
22.90%
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United pushes JPM on Sapphire Reserve
Sep 1, 2019, 6:33 pm
#361
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,005
There are many who would like an easier path to status -- I will be at just about 100K PQMs but short of Plat PQDs (but with a Chase MP card PQD waiver for Plat 
). But it is hard to not see the elite ranks are bloated -- "when everyone is special, no one is special." Making it easier to qualify isn't going to fix the shrinking elite "benefits" issue.
). But it is hard to not see the elite ranks are bloated -- "when everyone is special, no one is special." Making it easier to qualify isn't going to fix the shrinking elite "benefits" issue.I'm also partially biased because I pay rent on my CC, so I would be very confident in hitting a hypothetical threshold.
Sep 1, 2019, 6:49 pm
#362
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,854
I would venture to guess that adding a very high spending threshold to allow for FPQMs to be applicable for the PQM threshold at 1K would not move the dial that much...there can't be THAT many legacy Presidential Plus CC owners out there (although I could be wrong).
Perhaps we should be suggesting / advocating for benefits that could be added and not worsen the overall situation.
Sep 1, 2019, 7:48 pm
#363
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,005
The simple answer (IMO) would be to offer a higher multiplier than CSR. If you told me I could earn 5x RDM on just UA flights (not even partner flights booked on 016 stock) booked on united.com, I would immediately use my PP card way more. It's not rocket science...
Sep 1, 2019, 9:10 pm
#364
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 57,595
Sep 9, 2019, 11:03 am
#365
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,426
I would venture to guess that adding a very high spending threshold to allow for FPQMs to be applicable for the PQM threshold at 1K would not move the dial that much...there can't be THAT many legacy Presidential Plus CC owners out there (although I could be wrong).
I'm also partially biased because I pay rent on my CC, so I would be very confident in hitting a hypothetical threshold.
I'm also partially biased because I pay rent on my CC, so I would be very confident in hitting a hypothetical threshold.
f a card has OCC implications, so banks can't change the card benefits whenever they want to.
Sep 9, 2019, 2:58 pm
#366
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
Sep 9, 2019, 3:17 pm
#367
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,620
Have had the Club Card for YEARS but will probably dump it this year as the discount I get for the being GS is not much less than the CC rate. Also at basically 1.5 miles (some purchases are more) per dollar spend isn't that great anymore. MANY other cards have similar and better benefits so I have already started to shift my charges to a cash back type card where I can get up to as high as 4% cash back (ie gas purchases). So basically I am right with you only difference I don't think I will be even keeping the card now.
Sep 9, 2019, 5:13 pm
#368
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Programs: UA 1K 1MM (finally!), IHG AMB-Spire, HH Diamond
Posts: 60,174
The simple answer (IMO) would be to offer a higher multiplier than CSR. If you told me I could earn 5x RDM on just UA flights (not even partner flights booked on 016 stock) booked on united.com, I would immediately use my PP card way more. It's not rocket science...
Sep 10, 2019, 7:02 pm
#369
Join Date: May 2016
Location: In btw SJC & SFO
Programs: Marriott Titanium & LTP, Hilton Diamond (Aspire card), Hyatt Globalist, UA Gold (almost free agent)
Posts: 510
Last night I called 1K line to change my award ticket and before hang up the nice CSR lady just promoted the Club card and I politely said 'I will think over'. No way I would apply with current card benefits. I just canceled my explorer right after UA's dynamic domestic award change. Interesting this is first time that CSR persuaded me to apply UA card.
Sep 11, 2019, 12:21 pm
#371
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BUR / LAX
Programs: UA MM/Gold; WN A-list; HH something depending; Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,552
I also find the CSR really valuable for insurance and other non-miles/points benefits and will consider it a big item for which card gets daily use and travel use. Points being equal for travel, say, and I would still use the CSR for the travel insurance and car rental insurance. I regularly use the CSR vs a Chase Southwest card for Southwest flights, especially on rewards where the amount charged is so low so I don' care about the Southwest points.
The problem for UA is that if they offered global entry reimbursement or free CLEAR, for example, or other status benefits they would start undercutting the benefit of actual 1k status. Part of me thinks they would prefer giving benefits to cc holders vs actual flyers, though. :-)
The problem for UA is that if they offered global entry reimbursement or free CLEAR, for example, or other status benefits they would start undercutting the benefit of actual 1k status. Part of me thinks they would prefer giving benefits to cc holders vs actual flyers, though. :-)
Jan 23, 2020, 8:21 am
#373
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 9,005
I don’t see the details in the article itself, but seeing a Bloomberg article regarding United and Chase coming to an agreements on their CCs. Only concrete items I see right off is sign-up bonuses on all 4 cards (is this new? I feel like it isn’t) and a new card for small business owners.
Jan 23, 2020, 11:02 pm
#374
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.995MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,854
I don’t see the details in the article itself, but seeing a Bloomberg article regarding United and Chase coming to an agreements on their CCs. Only concrete items I see right off is sign-up bonuses on all 4 cards (is this new? I feel like it isn’t) and a new card for small business owners.