DENflyer3

Heading to Naples on this Wednesday. Flying into NYC early this Tuesday. I just noticed my young daughters passport (minor) expires in late July. We are returning June 12th. Will UAL let her board since it expires inside of 6 months? Second should I be worried if UAL lets us on, that she will be denied entrance into Italy because she is inside of the 6 month expiration date? I can run by the NYC passport offices and get the 24 hour new passport on Tuesday and pick it up Wednesday, but that could be a huge pain for timing, not sure how big an issue this will be? My passport expires in 2024. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

ajGoes

Your daughter will need a new passport. The State Department says "Must have at least six months validity remaining beyond your planned date of departure from the Schengen area."

Often1

UA won't let her board if she doesn't meet Italy's entry requirements. You can run her data through TIMATIC, the same database UA will use, at the link below. If she requires additional validity, pick up the new passport. If not, just get it done in the normal course on return.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...aspx?i=TIMATIC

WineCountryUA

Six Month Passport Validity Rule – 6 Month Validity Rule for Visitors Explained.

ajGoes

I see the State Department site is incorrect.

Kacee

Just to be clear, two months validity will not suffice. A new passport is needed. UA will not permit her to check-in for the flight.
It often is. Timatic is the correct resource for these questions, as that's what the airlines use at check-in.

usbusinesstraveller

The US State Department's website is beyond useless and in many cases, including here, totally inaccurate.

However it doesn't matter for the OP. Your daughter WILL need a new passport.

The rule for the Schengen Area, of which Italy is part, is that third country nationals (including the US) must have passports valid for at least three months beyond the intended date of departure from Schengen (which is very different to six months beyond date of entry as the Dept of State says). With an intended date of departure from Schengen of 12th June, your passports must be valid until at least 12th September.

With tomorrow being a national holiday and so no chance of getting a same day renewal at a passport office, I'm afraid you are going to have to postpone your trip. Call United, explain your case very contritely and politely. The normal case is that you'll have to pay change fee plus difference in fare to reschedule, and that's what you should expect. It's possible that UA staff will take pity and do what they can to help, possibly a waiver of the change fee. There's no guarantee of that at all, and UA owes you nothing, but be polite, explain it's your fault and there's a tiny smidgen of hope. Good luck

mahasamatman

The OP is flying Wednesday. The process can be started on Tuesday, and completed same day or early Wednesday.

DENflyer3

Thanks for the info, looks like I am going to be getting the Tuesday appointment. Glad I caught this now,but sure wish I'd caught it earlier in the week when I could do something about it. Terrible trying to get appointments booked on a holiday weekend. Further question, is will UAL let her board DEN - EWR? Won't they check the passport on the opening leg of the trip? Or do I need to re-book her one way to EWR and then re-book her EWR-NAP flights and onward?

mahasamatman

You never said she wasn't going to be with you in New York. Even if they do let her board, I'm not sure if you can get this done at the passport office without her. At the very least, you won't have passport pictures.

arttravel

Theoretically you may be able to get a new passport at the New York City office. I have heard anecdotally that walk in appointments are permitted -- but I do not know anyone personally that has done it.

For a walk in appointment it is best to go as soon as possible when arriving in New York -- and have all the paperwork and photo ready.

UA will not allow boarding and Italy will not allow entry.

Edit -- just saw the response -- where is the daughter now?

Kacee

How long is your stop in New York? If it's over 24 hours, you're probably okay. If it's <24 hours, they will treat it as an international check-in. You will know at T-24, when you try to check-in on line.

iluv2fly

They will not let her board any part of a trip where she will need a valid passport.

There are stories where someone wants to board a flight without a passport saying that when they get to the connecting airport that someone will bring it to them. That's also a no-go.

I consider myself a pretty knowledgeable flier but I was caught with this on a USA-SIN flight a few years back. The GS agents were sympathetic but stated that UA would be fined considerably for letting me on the plane. In addition, once getting to SIN, they would have to transport me back to the US, probably in Y.

Good luck.

Kacee

I don't think that's the case if EWR is a stopover. But OP will find out for sure at T-24.

usbusinesstraveller

Oops, yes my bad. With Wednesday travel there's a chance with a same day appointment Tuesday. A few years ago one of my staff needed a same day appointment to get a passport (he'd lost his) for the next day travel, and he got it. Good luck.

Here's the info about the Colorado passport office in Aurora/Denver. Start calling now (even though it's Sunday)

https://www.us-passport-service-guid...rt-agency.html