2-5-2 vs 3-3-3 no more?
Apr 21, 2019, 2:45 pm
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2-5-2 vs 3-3-3 no more?
Do you know whether 2-5-2 is gone on all flights and if so since when? I remember the layout fondly, and DW would have liked cozying up on the 17 hour flight that we’re taking from SFO to SIN this summer.
why does united seat 2-5-2 instead of 3-3-3 on 777s?
why does united seat 2-5-2 instead of 3-3-3 on 777s?
Apr 21, 2019, 2:56 pm
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Nice old thread. This quote struck me as funny:
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Reply by tommy777 on Jun 1, 2005: "wow, thats brutal...
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Originally Posted by House
BA has a small number of 777's flying from LGW to the Caribbean that do indeed have 3-4-3 in economy.
BA has a small number of 777's flying from LGW to the Caribbean that do indeed have 3-4-3 in economy.
Reply by tommy777 on Jun 1, 2005: "wow, thats brutal...
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Apr 21, 2019, 3:40 pm
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Apr 21, 2019, 5:14 pm
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Right. The 3-3-3 configuration is being retired in favor of 3-4-3 on the 777. However, planes with a Premium Plus cabin are 2-4-2, or 2-3-2 for the 787 (in that cabin). However, none of the planes used for SFO-SIN have a Premium Plus cabin yet.
Apr 21, 2019, 7:56 pm
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The main industry-wide change was much earlier though as planes got seatback IFE which meant that three identical seat sets were much cheaper than needing two-blocks and five-blocks custom made.
Apr 22, 2019, 3:27 pm
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Not quite as old as all that - the 77H were flying well into 2016 (if not 2017) with 2-5-2 Y before they got converted to 77G.
The main industry-wide change was much earlier though as planes got seatback IFE which meant that three identical seat sets were much cheaper than needing two-blocks and five-blocks custom made.
The main industry-wide change was much earlier though as planes got seatback IFE which meant that three identical seat sets were much cheaper than needing two-blocks and five-blocks custom made.
Apr 22, 2019, 3:50 pm
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Apr 22, 2019, 5:16 pm
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The IFE on the 2-5-2 configuration was the fun looped IFE. It was AVOD that forced the switch to 3-3-3 as the system required more power/equipment for each set of seats. From what I remember, when PMUA was planning IPTE, the original seat maps for the 777 called for 2-5-2 to stay in Y. Obviously, that never happened.
I could be wrong, but I don't think the domestic 777s ever had seatback TVs, even when they were 2-5-2. They went straight from 2-5-2 to 3-4-3.
The international configurations went from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 to now 3-4-3, but they've always had PTVs.
The international configurations went from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 to now 3-4-3, but they've always had PTVs.
Apr 22, 2019, 5:35 pm
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The IFE on the 2-5-2 configuration was the fun looped IFE. It was AVOD that forced the switch to 3-3-3 as the system required more power/equipment for each set of seats. From what I remember, when PMUA was planning IPTE, the original seat maps for the 777 called for 2-5-2 to stay in Y. Obviously, that never happened.
I could be wrong, but I don't think the domestic 777s ever had seatback TVs, even when they were 2-5-2. They went straight from 2-5-2 to 3-4-3.
The international configurations went from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 to now 3-4-3, but they've always had PTVs.
I could be wrong, but I don't think the domestic 777s ever had seatback TVs, even when they were 2-5-2. They went straight from 2-5-2 to 3-4-3.
The international configurations went from 2-5-2 to 3-3-3 to now 3-4-3, but they've always had PTVs.
Apr 22, 2019, 6:45 pm
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Are you referring to the configuration with the First Class Suites, but Biz was just recliners? I had forgotten all about them.