IAH-OIL-TRASH

catalyst2211

Seriously? Do all Asians understand Chinese? Won't yelling 'No!' work as well?

Repooc17

StuckinITH

Anyways, too much discussion about overbooking. This flight was not overbooked in Economy (unless many passengers missed their flight). It left with 25 empty seats in Economy + and 36 empty seats in Economy. However, it was the perfect flight for upgrades for revenue and non-revs passengers alike. Upgrades to Polaris Business: 17. This makes sense since it was sold 42/60.

I wish that all the flights that I try to upgrade to have so many empty seats in Polaris Business so my upgrade would clear. And if I'm upgraded at the last minute, I don't really care what seat I get (even on the 2-4-2 configuration).

Repooc17

Thank you for clearing it up.

I am still unsure what the beef is?

cesco.g

Z-fares are actually booking into business class cabins - not necessary / possible to upgrade a ticket in this booking class.

bocastephen

In the context of where the OP experienced this and where I've had to do it, yes they understand exactly what I am yelling at them.

In the OP's case, if they were unwilling to escalate the noise issue to the purser, they can't really complain about it - and it would be interesting to know if these were revenue op-ups making the commotion or nonrevs - if the latter, they should have been told to be quiet or face disciplinary action. Furthermore, if these passengers were nonrev, the gate agent, or once onboard, the purser, should have moved a nonrev to accommodate the OP's seating preference.

The fact that the GA was disinterested in usually easy to read from a distance, and in these circumstances I just choose another GA or ask the lounge agent to call the gate and have it taken care of that way.

VegasGambler

I mean... well over a billion of them do... I like those odds!

StuckinITH

Unfortunately for the OP, nobody was upgraded at the gate to an odd seat in the front cabin. So, what was the agent supposed to do? Remove the seat from a passenger that had booked Polaris Business or remove the seat from a passenger who was upgraded months or weeks or days in advance?

The OP was upgraded late in the process. Seems it happened when there was no odd seats left in the front cabin. If the OP really likes the front cabin, there were 5 seats in even rows that were available as some passengers were upgraded at the gate to those seats. We are not talking here of an upgrade to a middle seat in the 2-4-2 configuration. So, not worth of a complaint.

jp12687

ani90

Can someone please direct me to those flights? In a decade as 1K I have had only one op-up to business....

bocastephen

That's the part I was missing - I thought there were odd seats open that were given to upgraders, but I guess that's not the case. If they were already taken by other revenue customers, there is really nothing to complain about aside from the disinterested gate agent and the onboard noise and theft of snacks.

Miggles

If you were already upgraded, why didn't you just select an even numbered seat? Otherwise, what is there to complain about? If you wait list for an upgrade, then not winning an upgrade is a calculated risk. If the downside of that risk is too much, then next time confirm the upgrade at booking or pay whatever it takes to get a confirmed business class seat.

catalyst2211

Yes, obviously you can't speak Chinese. I said ''understand Chinese'. 不要 is written in Chinese (simplified). He could be yelling:
Bu yao (Mandarin)
Mm Oi (Hakka)
Mai (Fuchow)
Bo Ai (Fujian)
Etc

Anyways, the point is, even on a flight to TPE it is strange to assume that all asians on the flight would understand Chinese. Just like I wouldn't assume all white people on a plane to FRA to understand German. A ''No!' would be more universally understood.

Aussienarelle

I had one last year (LHR-IAD)! Only one in 1.2 million BIS flights.