UA flyers -- Paper BP vs Phone app - what's your choice? Why?
#76
#77
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: ORD
Programs: UA 1K 1.5 MM, AA PLAT PRO 1MM
Posts: 573
For domestic flights, I check in on the app and use the mobile boarding pass. I email a PDF boarding pass to myself so that I have a record if needed. For international flights, I get paper boarding passes - either printed at home or at the airport if/when I check luggage. I carry extra power for the phone, so the battery isn't an issue. The only time I've ever had a problem with the electronic boarding pass disappearing from my phone before boarding was on AAnother AAirline.
#78
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Paper with electronic backup.
For those who've flown AA, you know why.
For those who fly with families, you know why.
For those who've been asked for a copy of documentation weeks or even months later, having a good copy, either paper and/or PDF and/or photograph/screen capture/etc., is still viable.
For those who only have to fly themselves around the planet, anything electronic and/or that communicates with other systems is still only as reliable as the weakest link in those systems.
For those who think that they're saving a tree or even trees, you have no idea how much paper is produced worldwide each and every year. Besides, you can also look at it as carbon capture since the flights you're taking anyway are far more prodigious in their carbon footprint effect.
David
For those who've flown AA, you know why.
For those who fly with families, you know why.
For those who've been asked for a copy of documentation weeks or even months later, having a good copy, either paper and/or PDF and/or photograph/screen capture/etc., is still viable.
For those who only have to fly themselves around the planet, anything electronic and/or that communicates with other systems is still only as reliable as the weakest link in those systems.
For those who think that they're saving a tree or even trees, you have no idea how much paper is produced worldwide each and every year. Besides, you can also look at it as carbon capture since the flights you're taking anyway are far more prodigious in their carbon footprint effect.
David
#79
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: BWI
Programs: UA 1MM & 1K, Marriott Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 255
I always get a paper one, even if I checked in online. I can only remember one time that I did not, right after the merger when there was a checkin meltdown. I prefer to have a travel document that isn't subject to bugs, power loss, and can be reliably and easily scanned.
#80
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: HND, NRT
Programs: UA Gold (1K 2016–2023 by miracle extensions; RIP 1K status), 1MM
Posts: 220
I was thinking about this after I posted. As someone who lives in Japan and uses my phone to get on trains and pay at supermarkets and convenient stores—plus travels on a variety of Asian airlines and rarely needs a paper BP—I don't see how how flying is some special thing that you just have to have a piece of paper for.
#82
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In between
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, SPG/Marriott Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 564
TL;DR - I have every paper boarding pass for every flight from 2004 - present. Started as an accident and became a compulsion. That said, I always use OLCI and print out BP at airport, usually using the mobile BP at the gate reader.
Full story: when I started flying consistently after finishing college back in 2004, the process was pretty repetitive: put BP in the big scanner, receive the stub, look at seat number, stick stub in wallet. I'd put the stub on the corner of my counter at one of my corporate apartments, and after about 8 weeks there were quite a few of them. So I decided that I was going to keep them all, and I have. I was really bummed with the move from the heavy card stock to the thermal paper, and every now and then when I get a semi-heavy card stock BP I get pretty excited. Fast forward 15 years to present day, I've got a shoebox filled with over 1300 BPs; at some point I'm going to find someone far more creative than me to create some kind of artwork with all of them. Also, I still have a stack of the old, heavy gold ticket envelopes that I cherish
Full story: when I started flying consistently after finishing college back in 2004, the process was pretty repetitive: put BP in the big scanner, receive the stub, look at seat number, stick stub in wallet. I'd put the stub on the corner of my counter at one of my corporate apartments, and after about 8 weeks there were quite a few of them. So I decided that I was going to keep them all, and I have. I was really bummed with the move from the heavy card stock to the thermal paper, and every now and then when I get a semi-heavy card stock BP I get pretty excited. Fast forward 15 years to present day, I've got a shoebox filled with over 1300 BPs; at some point I'm going to find someone far more creative than me to create some kind of artwork with all of them. Also, I still have a stack of the old, heavy gold ticket envelopes that I cherish
#83
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Loveland, CO
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I am a true techno-geek (ask my family and friends)! I introduced the first PC to a Fortune 200 company; I've been on the internet since 1981 when there was no World Wide Web; I always have the latest gear; etc., etc. BUT, I am keenly aware that technology frequently fails (e.g., SABRE down yesterday & sensors on the 737 MAX). A long time ago I began using the expression, "The wonderful thing about technology is that it ever works at all." Hence, while I use my phone to check-in, I always get a paper boarding pass.
#84
#85
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 4,115
For me: UA GS - paper always. International - paper always*. Domestic other airlines - electronic.
*- I will do electronic on some stuff like intra-Shengen flights, domestic Canada/Mexico flights, etc. too.
I have no issues with the worries about phone reliability - those concerns are long in the past IMO.
#87
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I am a true techno-geek (ask my family and friends)! I introduced the first PC to a Fortune 200 company; I've been on the internet since 1981 when there was no World Wide Web; I always have the latest gear; etc., etc. BUT, I am keenly aware that technology frequently fails (e.g., SABRE down yesterday & sensors on the 737 MAX). A long time ago I began using the expression, "The wonderful thing about technology is that it ever works at all." Hence, while I use my phone to check-in, I always get a paper boarding pass.
I see how the sausage is made on a daily basis and I have far less faith in complex systems. Each individual component has a long list of issues. Yet, somehow, you cobble them together the whole system more or less works. It's a house of cards though, and it does not take much to bring it down.
#88
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG • Ex SFO, NYC
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I think that this is the difference between people who work in tech and people who use tech. People who use it expect it to work, because, why wouldn't it?
I see how the sausage is made on a daily basis and I have far less faith in complex systems. Each individual component has a long list of issues. Yet, somehow, you cobble them together the whole system more or less works. It's a house of cards though, and it does not take much to bring it down.
I see how the sausage is made on a daily basis and I have far less faith in complex systems. Each individual component has a long list of issues. Yet, somehow, you cobble them together the whole system more or less works. It's a house of cards though, and it does not take much to bring it down.
Truth is, with an iOS device and the Wallet app, there is almost zero probability it breaks on you last minute, and with the things I always carry while traveling (a battery pack) there's almost zero probability my phone in unexpectedly dies.
The wallet app stores passes offline and is built into the system. The app is incredibly reliable and has never failed me.
#89
Join Date: Feb 2016
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...I see how the sausage is made on a daily basis and I have far less faith in complex systems. Each individual component has a long list of issues. Yet, somehow, you cobble them together the whole system more or less works. It's a house of cards though, and it does not take much to bring it down.
#90
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Corvallis, OR, USA
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x = p(phone not working - or worse, leaving it in the lounge)
y = p(leaving paper BP behind or not being able to find it)
Why not prefer something closer to 1 - x*y than 1 - x or 1 - y even if both x and y are small?
[Yes, I know they are not independent. Hence "closer".]
y = p(leaving paper BP behind or not being able to find it)
Why not prefer something closer to 1 - x*y than 1 - x or 1 - y even if both x and y are small?
[Yes, I know they are not independent. Hence "closer".]