UA65 LIS-EWR Cracked Windshied

Old Feb 28, 2019, 1:53 pm
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UA65 LIS-EWR Cracked Windshied

Anyone on UA65 Lisbon - Newark today 2/28? Flightradar tweeting it returned due to windshield crack; flight subsequently cancelled.



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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:13 pm
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These 757s are so old, urgh... I feel like there is constantly something with them, last time I took this Lisbon flight one of the toilets on board was broken, my IFE crapped out, and the seat was having problems lifting from fully flat to upright (had to yank it up manually). Got an ETC for it, but still annoying...

Let's hope these pax at least get some comp!
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:15 pm
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Won't EU261 guarantee some compensation in this case?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by mrt88
These 757s are so old, urgh... I feel like there is constantly something with them, last time I took this Lisbon flight one of the toilets on board was broken, my IFE crapped out, and the seat was having problems lifting from fully flat to upright (had to yank it up manually). Got an ETC for it, but still annoying...

Let's hope these pax at least get some comp!
They arent old at all. The cracked wind shield has nothing to do with age if the airframe.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Meola10
They arent old at all. The cracked wind shield has nothing to do with age if the airframe.
I seem to remember reading something a while ago about cracked windshields plaguing 57/67s. Can anyone else back me up?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Wombat1
Won't EU261 guarantee some compensation in this case?
UA will claim "no" as they will classify it as an unexpected situation. Whether that's valid or will depend on the exact circumstances and is something that frequently isn't clear. eg, if they hit a bird, then they are most likely right to deny. If it was due to poor maintenance then probably not.

One way or another they need to provide "assistance" (meals, hotel, etc) - it's just the compensation side that isn't clear.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by n198ua


I seem to remember reading something a while ago about cracked windshields plaguing 57/67s. Can anyone else back me up?
The problem with the windshields was electrical in nature which has resulted in a cracked windshield from time to time. However the smoke events due to the electrical faults of the windshield may be more serious. I believe most of these issues were corrected a few years ago.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by n198ua
I seem to remember reading something a while ago about cracked windshields plaguing 57/67s. Can anyone else back me up?
Not problematic, but some guy has a silly lawsuit he was traumatized by UA having a cracked windshield on a flight (IIRC a 763). Could you be thinking of that?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by jhayes_1780
Not problematic, but some guy has a silly lawsuit he was traumatized by UA having a cracked windshield on a flight (IIRC a 763). Could you be thinking of that?
yes!
https://www.ibtimes.com/united-airli...racked-2755566

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Old Feb 28, 2019, 3:21 pm
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if they made it to 25,000' before turning around then it is most likely NOT a bird strike.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 3:55 pm
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Originally Posted by nachosdelux
if they made it to 25,000' before turning around then it is most likely NOT a bird strike.
They might have hit birds on a lower flight level without visible damage. Ascending higher up, the crack from the previous impact might develop over time with changes in temperature, inside/outside air pressure and speed.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 4:11 pm
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I wonder if one of the pilots on this flight also managed to heroically plug the shattered window with his backside, saving all aboard?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 4:52 pm
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Originally Posted by nachosdelux
if they made it to 25,000' before turning around then it is most likely NOT a bird strike.
I hear the Concorde species of birds fly at that altitude for noise abatement
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by j2simpso
Originally Posted by nachosdelux
if they made it to 25,000' before turning around then it is most likely NOT a bird strike.
I hear the Concorde species of birds fly at that altitude for noise abatement
There are numerous bird species are known to fly above FL250, one even above FL350
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...flight_heights

Not saying that was the cause in this case but various species are capable of flight at surprising heights, including some that could have been in the geographic region of this event.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by n198ua


I seem to remember reading something a while ago about cracked windshields plaguing 57/67s. Can anyone else back me up?
I once had a flight go MX due to a cracked windshield. It was a 10 year old A320.
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