Does gender influence GS invitations
Dec 31, 2018, 11:37 am
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From a business perspective, we're always told that most (coach) passengers just buy the cheapest ticket, so AA's concern should focus on having its GS population and premium cabins look however will best induce higher revenue (profits and stock market value), which might involve having those premium cabins and GS membership look as "exclusive" as possible.
Dec 31, 2018, 12:16 pm
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I guess United needs to institute a policy where only 50% of front-cabin seats can be assigned to males.
This thread, and the initial observation/suggestion, is just woefully misguided.
Advancement/opportunities at work or business provided to non-white-males is what will increase their representation in United front cabins and the MP Premier levels. The reverse - increasing their representation in the front cabin or in the ranks of MP Premiers "just because" - will not beget opportunities at work/business.
Unlike Augusta Country Club (in the past) where admission was denied because one was black or female (even though otherwise qualified), United has no such policy.
This thread, and the initial observation/suggestion, is just woefully misguided.
Advancement/opportunities at work or business provided to non-white-males is what will increase their representation in United front cabins and the MP Premier levels. The reverse - increasing their representation in the front cabin or in the ranks of MP Premiers "just because" - will not beget opportunities at work/business.
Unlike Augusta Country Club (in the past) where admission was denied because one was black or female (even though otherwise qualified), United has no such policy.
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Dec 31, 2018, 12:24 pm
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Advancement/opportunities at work or business provided to non-white males is what will increase their representation in United front cabins and the MP Premier levels. Increasing their representation in the front cabin or in the ranks of MP Premiers "just because" will not beget opportunities at work/business.
Dec 31, 2018, 12:42 pm
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Dec 31, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Now putting on the Moderator Hat
While there is great temptation to take this take to the great view outside of UA, that would suggest this is no longer a UA topic. To keep this in the UA forum, we need to focus the discussion on UA related issues and not wander into areas better suited for the OMNI forums.
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While there is great temptation to take this take to the great view outside of UA, that would suggest this is no longer a UA topic. To keep this in the UA forum, we need to focus the discussion on UA related issues and not wander into areas better suited for the OMNI forums.
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Dec 31, 2018, 12:53 pm
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The OP went "far out on the limb" to suggest a major U.S. company might be interested in accelerating diversity in its elite ranks?
Dec 31, 2018, 1:19 pm
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Dec 31, 2018, 1:26 pm
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I guess you've never watched a United onboard video.
Dec 31, 2018, 1:40 pm
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Given that United flies to a hundred odd international destinations, and their passengers are not simply a subset of Americans, one would hope their safety videos show some diversity.
Dec 31, 2018, 1:46 pm
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By this logic, why wouldn't "one hope" that the front cabins be more diverse? Why would it be a no-brainer for United to take action in one area but "disgusting," as someone above called it, for people to speculate that United might take action in another area?
Dec 31, 2018, 2:05 pm
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Wouldn't it be illegal to treat people differently based on gender?
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All the OP asked is if it's possible UA is implementing any sort of "affirmative action" in terms of GS qualification. Forget the sample size of two. It's a question that's relevant to business decisions United, or any other company, *might* make. And I think it's been pretty clearly explained why it's not something that United, or any other airline at least, *would* do.
If having to walk through a first class cabin dominated by white males was an issue, I'd think the first way an airline might address that would be by avoiding those in coach having to go through the "walk of shame." Look for ways to board through different doors, or board in the middle, with first class turning left, coach turning right (as is the case already with some planes). But I don't think it's an issue, and further, I've seen increasing diversity in long-haul F. Not so much domestically. But small sample size!
If having to walk through a first class cabin dominated by white males was an issue, I'd think the first way an airline might address that would be by avoiding those in coach having to go through the "walk of shame." Look for ways to board through different doors, or board in the middle, with first class turning left, coach turning right (as is the case already with some planes). But I don't think it's an issue, and further, I've seen increasing diversity in long-haul F. Not so much domestically. But small sample size!
Dec 31, 2018, 2:28 pm
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I find this an amusing thread, reflective of the current affirmative action environment in the USA. It is quite possible the OP is correct. 
Dec 31, 2018, 2:44 pm
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All the OP asked is if it's possible UA is implementing any sort of "affirmative action" in terms of GS qualification. Forget the sample size of two. It's a question that's relevant to business decisions United, or any other company, *might* make. And I think it's been pretty clearly explained why it's not something that United, or any other airline at least, *would* do.
If having to walk through a first class cabin dominated by white males was an issue, I'd think the first way an airline might address that would be by avoiding those in coach having to go through the "walk of shame." Look for ways to board through different doors, or board in the middle, with first class turning left, coach turning right (as is the case already with some planes). But I don't think it's an issue, and further, I've seen increasing diversity in long-haul F. Not so much domestically. But small sample size!
If having to walk through a first class cabin dominated by white males was an issue, I'd think the first way an airline might address that would be by avoiding those in coach having to go through the "walk of shame." Look for ways to board through different doors, or board in the middle, with first class turning left, coach turning right (as is the case already with some planes). But I don't think it's an issue, and further, I've seen increasing diversity in long-haul F. Not so much domestically. But small sample size!
That could motivate UA to be much more firm in preventing coach passengers from using premium cabin lavatories, but OTOH it would mean that GS could no longer board first, not could FC be assigned to a particular zone. Or maybe UA could sell premium cabins and give upgrades with a condition that the person fly with a paper bag on their head covering face and hair.