Are Upgrades Getting Easier on UA?

Old Dec 19, 18, 7:01 pm
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Are Upgrades Getting Easier on UA?

Hey FTers,

I heard somewhat recently about UA launching PY on some of their routes starting in March 2019. Upon researching further I noticed that CPUs/GPUs/RPUs can be used to upgrade from Y to PY (in addition to J/F). My question for the community is, given there's another premium cabin available will the chances of upgrades clearing (even just to PY) increase?

Safe Travels,

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Old Dec 19, 18, 7:22 pm
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My question for the community is, given there's another premium cabin available will the chances of upgrades clearing (even just to PY) increase?
No.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by j2simpso View Post
Hey FTers,

I heard somewhat recently about UA launching PY on some of their routes starting in March 2019. Upon researching further I noticed that CPUs/GPUs/RPUs can be used to upgrade from Y to PY (in addition to J/F). My question for the community is, given there's another premium cabin available will the chances of upgrades clearing (even just to PY) increase?

Safe Travels,

James
Doubt it. Just like J, they're going to price those seats such that they actually sell...And the rest will get snapped up by DoD upgrades.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 7:29 pm
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And the rest will get snapped up by DoD upgrades.
No doubt there'll be a thread on FT in a couple months tracking the SDB (single dollar bill) upgrade offers at OLCI!

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Old Dec 19, 18, 7:49 pm
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Perhaps I haven't been in the game long enough to say this but I don't ever see upgrades getting easier. Didn't happen after going revenue based, or the big award deval, or the increased PQDs, or award deval 2.0 and I predict it won't after PQD 2.0.

I see FFPs as analogous to churning at banks. There will always be an influx of new people flooding the market, regardless of how poorly the airlines/banks treat them.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 7:54 pm
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I had an 85% failure rate this year as a 1K using instruments.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 8:08 pm
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I don't think it has gotten easier. If I want to fly up front, I look for cheap fares and book it direct. My tolerance level for a flight in Y these days is probably the length of EWR-DEN/IAH. Anything longer and I'm going to find a way to make it to the front cabin. Not going to count on a CPU/waitlisted RPU to clear.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 8:22 pm
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Originally Posted by PsiFighter37 View Post
I don't think it has gotten easier. If I want to fly up front, I look for cheap fares and book it direct. My tolerance level for a flight in Y these days is probably the length of EWR-DEN/IAH. Anything longer and I'm going to find a way to make it to the front cabin. Not going to count on a CPU/waitlisted RPU to clear.
i think many of us share the sentiment about not wanting to fly in economy anymore. Given the reasonable prices for First on many routes now it shouldn’t be a surprise that upgrades are not the key benefit of status like they used to be.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by j2simpso View Post
No doubt there'll be a thread on FT in a couple months tracking the SDB (single dollar bill) upgrade offers at OLCI!

-James
UA will play with the price point in the first few months to balance the maximum upgrade price to just fill the seats.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 8:34 pm
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Is it April 1 already? That's the only plausible explanation for this thread.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 8:54 pm
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Restricting RPU to 4 will help domestic upgrades IMO, but probably not enough to matter large scale
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Old Dec 19, 18, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by claaaaaydavis View Post
I had an 85% failure rate this year as a 1K using instruments.
before the merger, I had a 75% success rate as a 1K. Times have changed.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 9:42 pm
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Restricting RPU to 4 will help domestic upgrades IMO, but probably not enough to matter large scale
Agreed it's always upset me how so called Elites had certificates they could use to make upgrades clear meanwhile us loyalist flying on k fares would either receive no ToD offer or a crazy expensive one (i.e. $1000 upgrade to J on EWR > NRT).

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Old Dec 19, 18, 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by j2simpso View Post
Agreed it's always upset me how so called Elites had certificates they could use to make upgrades clear meanwhile us loyalist flying on k fares would either receive no ToD offer or a crazy expensive one (i.e. $1000 upgrade to J on EWR > NRT).

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$1000 on east coast -> Asia is not a crazy TOD offer at all, especially considering the co-pay alone for a miles + co-pay upgrade from the lowest fare buckets on a Polaris flight (except LIM) is $500-$600 and requires PZ space.
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Old Dec 19, 18, 11:41 pm
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before the merger, I had a 75% success rate as a 1K. Times have changed.
Same. I do take some comfort in seeing that nobody else is clearing either though.
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