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lsquare Jul 7, 2022 11:01 pm


Originally Posted by char777 (Post 34406459)
Reputedly, UA wants to bring showers back into the UA Clubs. The new EWR club has them, and the renovated DEN club is supposed to have them too. I believe the SFO rotunda club was due to be renovated along with the rest of the F concourse, but that project's been put off indefinitely.

Where would the showers be place at the Rotunda? Unless UA starts removing the toilets or taking away space from the bar?

It would be nice to be able to take a shower at SFO before flying off to Singapore.

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 12:05 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34406567)
Well with the return of some UC showers UA seems to be doing that -- however, for flights short of overnight transcons, one can question the need for domestic showers. Note many domestic clubs / lounges of domestic carriers don't have showers. So maybe just the hubs / international gateways? But this debate has been had many times and this is the wrong thread for this discussion, so will move to the UC shower thread

I had no idea this thread even existed. SFO seems like a logical candidate to have showers given what you said?

WineCountryUA Jul 8, 2022 12:24 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406579)
I had no idea this thread even existed. SFO seems like a logical candidate to have showers given what you said?

And perhaps in the next remodel, whenever that might be.

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 12:27 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34406605)
And perhaps in the next remodel, whenever that might be.

UA should have done that in 2020 or early 2021. I mean, all the criteria that you set, SFO already has it, right? To me, SFO makes way more sense than DEN, but I don't know UA as well as you.

WineCountryUA Jul 8, 2022 12:32 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406613)
UA should have done that in 2020 or early 2021. I mean, all the criteria that you set, SFO already has it, right? To me, SFO makes way more sense than DEN, but I don't know UA as well as you.

DEN is in the process of a remodel (long over due)
As you mentioned, showers are hard to do as a small retrofit.
My guess it will be years for SFO.
And the major business class customers are well covered by the PL. (But transcon customers would also like showers.) So low urgency.

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 12:38 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34406617)
DEN is in the process of a remodel (long over due)
As you mentioned, showers are hard to do as a small retrofit.
My guess it will be years for SFO.
And the major business class customers are well covered by the PL. (But transcon customers would also like showers.) So low urgency.

Too bad I can't access PL unless I fly J! It would be a nice gesture if UA allowed 1K and GS to access PL to shower. Isn't SFO UC E the newer lounge? I'm surprised UA didn't install showers there.

WineCountryUA Jul 8, 2022 12:50 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406628)
Too bad I can't access PL unless I fly J! It would be a nice gesture if UA allowed 1K and GS to access PL to shower.

No going to happen, the lounge is intended for J flyers only and increasing access is the last thing it needs.


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406628)
TIsn't SFO UC E the newer lounge? I'm surprised UA didn't install showers there.

That lounge is far too small to have showers, it would be a better use of space to increase the seating if there was more space to be had, And that lounge is from 2015, 7 years ago.
While the "newest", hardly new and well before the decision change.

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 12:55 am


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 34406650)
No going to happen, the lounge is intended for J flyers only and increasing access is the last thing it needs.

That lounge is far too small to have showers, it would be a better use of space to increase the seating if there was more space to be had, And that lounge is from 2015, 7 years ago.
While the "newest", hardly new and well before the decision change.

I'm learning from the best...

I was at SFO UC E about a month ago. It's indeed small. Just speaking from my mind about what can possibly be done to give SFO a bit of love.

char777 Jul 8, 2022 1:04 am

I would think they could figure out a way to get showers into the rotunda club. The T3-F renovation is more than just a remodel – it's also supposed to include an expansion in between former Gates 72-75 and the hall with the bouncy walkways on the way to the rotunda. That could free up more space for the UA Club to expand.

Other options would be to put them in the G lounge, where they used to be when it was an IFL lounge. Also, with UA getting gates in T2 and AS eventually moving to T1, perhaps UA would consider opening a new club in there.

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 1:08 am


Originally Posted by char777 (Post 34406668)
I would think they could figure out a way to get showers into the rotunda club. The T3-F renovation is more than just a remodel – it's also supposed to include an expansion in between former Gates 72-75 and the hall with the bouncy walkways on the way to the rotunda. That could free up more space for the UA Club to expand.

Other options would be to put them in the G lounge, where they used to be when it was an IFL lounge. Also, with UA getting gates in T2 and AS eventually moving to T1, perhaps UA would consider opening a new club in there.

Is that speculation or the consensus as to what a remodelled Rotunda will look like?

Where were the showers in SFO UC G?

char777 Jul 8, 2022 1:54 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406673)
Is that speculation or the consensus as to what a remodelled Rotunda will look like?

There's a $1 billion plan on the books to renovate T3-F to match T3-E as well as expand the footprint. Construction was supposed to start in June 2020, but it has been postponed indefinitely. The city extended the leases of the current concessions tenants until at least the end of 2023. I'm sure it'll happen at some point, but it's anyone's guess as to when.

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...n-15981771.php

https://i.ibb.co/K5Zptwt/image.png

Here's one of the handful of renderings that were floating around. Looks like the plans call for bumping out the area where the Yankee Pier is and making a much more substantial post-security headhouse area. I don't know what the rotunda UA Club plans were, but I think it's safe to say that the club would not go untouched.

https://i.ibb.co/Htkz5YD/image.png

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 1:59 am


Originally Posted by char777 (Post 34406744)
There's a $1 billion plan on the books to renovate T3-F to match T3-E as well as expand the footprint. Construction was supposed to start in June 2020, but it has been postponed indefinitely. The city extended the leases of the current concessions tenants until at least the end of 2023. I'm sure it'll happen at some point, but it's anyone's guess as to when.

https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...n-15981771.php

https://i.ibb.co/K5Zptwt/image.png

Here's one of the handful of renderings that were floating around. Looks like the plans call for bumping out the area where the Yankee Pier is and making a much more substantial post-security headhouse area. I don't know what the rotunda UA Club plans were, but I think it's safe to say that the club would not go untouched.

How do you bump out the area around Yankee Pier?

uastarflyer Jul 8, 2022 7:21 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406475)
Where would the showers be place at the Rotunda? Unless UA starts removing the toilets or taking away space from the bar?.

which is why I hope budget constraints keep them from updating the Rotunda club for about 20 years

lsquare Jul 8, 2022 8:36 am


Originally Posted by uastarflyer (Post 34407301)
which is why I hope budget constraints keep them from updating the Rotunda club for about 20 years

Why?

stupidhead Jul 8, 2022 10:42 am


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 34406750)
How do you bump out the area around Yankee Pier?

Not sure what this would involve (probably a !@%)!@#* !)@load of money and red tape), but they should really build that area up and put the new UA Club there. You'd be much less space-constrained building above the existing concourse.


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