"Horny" Passenger Allegedly Molested Women on UA Flight
Jul 11, 2018, 12:49 pm
#46
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she was assaulted three times THEN brought it to the attention of the crew when it was resolved.
its dark, red eye flight at night-how could anyone know until she notified them? Is United now going to be required to do background checks on all the passengers? or have security guards with flash lights patrolling the planes?
The blame falls on FEDEX pilot and nobody else.
Jul 11, 2018, 1:02 pm
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she was assaulted three times THEN brought it to the attention of the crew when it was resolved.
its dark, red eye flight at night-how could anyone know until she notified them? Is United now going to be required to do background checks on all the passengers? or have security guards with flash lights patrolling the planes?
The blame falls on FEDEX pilot and nobody else.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jul 11, 2018 at 11:18 pm Reason: discuss the issue;not the poster(s)
Jul 11, 2018, 1:38 pm
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Are you serious?....the pilot had already acted inappropriately with a FA. OP says the guy is groping her and worse, and the FA she reported it to just says "talk to him." So she then turned to the purser who did help. But the FA should have acted then and there. And even thought the guy wasn't convicted, there was apparently sufficient evidence for the authorities to bring it to trial. We have FT members complaining that a FA ignores them when they make a request for something, and now we have something serious and the FA's lack of action is just explained away in one way or the other.
no.
what did she say to the first FA she spoke with? Did she say
”this man is bothering me” or did she say “this man physically assaulted me?” WORDS MATTER.
so tell me, where is United at fault here and when?
Jul 11, 2018, 2:10 pm
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Think about it in a way where the injuries are more visible. A typical middle class American, with a solid job, is walking down the street and is hit by a car that is traveling at high speeds. The person who was walking sustains serious injuries. Perhaps they're in a coma, could be paralyzed, and might never work again.
At the time of the accident there are tons of things you don't know. How much will the medical bills be? What kind of long term care might you need? Will you be able to work again? Walk again? The idea in a civil suit is to give time, as much as allowed by law, to let as much of the harm be known so you know how much in damages to sue for.
By the way many health plans have subrogation clauses in them. This means that if you're harmed as a result of an accident and win a lawsuit, any costs paid for by the insurance plan must be repaid prior to you collecting any money. So the lawyer will get paid first, then any health insurance spending is recouped, and finally you get whatever's left. It's not an easy thing or for the faint of heart. Plus, you get the joy of reliving what will probably be one of the worst days of your life over and over again.
Jul 11, 2018, 2:56 pm
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Typically in a case like this your lawsuit is to seek "redress" aka compensation for a harm that occurred. It takes time for the full ramifications of an event to be understood, so there's no rush to file a lawsuit until near the end of the statue of limitations, which is likely 2 years.
Think about it in a way where the injuries are more visible. A typical middle class American, with a solid job, is walking down the street and is hit by a car that is traveling at high speeds. The person who was walking sustains serious injuries. Perhaps they're in a coma, could be paralyzed, and might never work again.
At the time of the accident there are tons of things you don't know. How much will the medical bills be? What kind of long term care might you need? Will you be able to work again? Walk again? The idea in a civil suit is to give time, as much as allowed by law, to let as much of the harm be known so you know how much in damages to sue for.
By the way many health plans have subrogation clauses in them. This means that if you're harmed as a result of an accident and win a lawsuit, any costs paid for by the insurance plan must be repaid prior to you collecting any money. So the lawyer will get paid first, then any health insurance spending is recouped, and finally you get whatever's left. It's not an easy thing or for the faint of heart. Plus, you get the joy of reliving what will probably be one of the worst days of your life over and over again.
Think about it in a way where the injuries are more visible. A typical middle class American, with a solid job, is walking down the street and is hit by a car that is traveling at high speeds. The person who was walking sustains serious injuries. Perhaps they're in a coma, could be paralyzed, and might never work again.
At the time of the accident there are tons of things you don't know. How much will the medical bills be? What kind of long term care might you need? Will you be able to work again? Walk again? The idea in a civil suit is to give time, as much as allowed by law, to let as much of the harm be known so you know how much in damages to sue for.
By the way many health plans have subrogation clauses in them. This means that if you're harmed as a result of an accident and win a lawsuit, any costs paid for by the insurance plan must be repaid prior to you collecting any money. So the lawyer will get paid first, then any health insurance spending is recouped, and finally you get whatever's left. It's not an easy thing or for the faint of heart. Plus, you get the joy of reliving what will probably be one of the worst days of your life over and over again.