adambrau

Boeing 787-10 to have an EWR pilot base - sort of makes sense, Remember, the 77W was supposed to be mainly EWR-based until the it was decided that the 744 retirement was moved forward, I believe twice. Newark is bursting at the seams and could definitely use maybe two flight to Frankfurt and maybe just one to CDG, for example. And larger planes to LHR. Whether any of this happens remains to be seen but curious what others think....

WineCountryUA

Saw where?

PsiFighter37

It would make sense to have one at EWR. It would also allow for EWR-JNB to maybe be a reality someday

Would be good to know where it came from, though...

LarryJ

A EWR 787 pilot base is under consideration. If implemented, the target date in next spring.

adambrau

That other airline website - there was a quote from a UA exec. Then it disappeared 10 minutes later.

PsiFighter37

Andrew Nocella said the EWR Polaris club would be open in May, and that turned out to be untrue. Perhaps not worth putting too much stock into what UA execs say - trust in the press releases instead

adambrau

Well the Polaris Lounge at EWR is opening in June, according to whether you believe UA press releases. So a month late which in annals of NYC/NJ interior contractor work is a bit of a yawn.

mduell

787-10 can't make EWR-JNB nonstop.

ContinentalFan

mduell

Practically, with economic loads, about 6000 mi.

ContinentalFan

sbm12

It is significantly further than the 757 flies. And it is even more significantly larger. The 787-10 is about replacing the 767-400 or 777-200 (non-ER) more than anything else.
That's a month late after pushing how far from the original plan? Remember that the 2016 Polaris product launch had multiple lounges (including EWR) in 2017. It is very, very late. And it isn't a NYC construction problem.

PsiFighter37

EWR764

The United pilot agreement requires the company to issue a Notice of Proposed Decision Making ("NPDM") any time the company intends to make a decision on allocation of flying. The NPDM is an administrative process which gives ALPA the opportunity to review and comment on the company's proposal, based on the issues the company is trying to address. I haven't seen anything personally, but reportedly an NPDM was issued for the opening of a 787 domicile in Newark by Spring 2019, ostensibly for the forthcoming 787-10 fleet, and the closure of the LAX 777 domicile, which will be substantially replaced by additional 787 positions.

EWR 787 seems to be targeted primarily at Europe.

I wouldn't count that out just yet... let's see where we are by the end of May.

adambrau

OK well it's 2018 and we're all still here. Alive presumably. As *A partner Swiss shows at it's Terminal A/B concourse lounge in Zurich, they are in week 42 of upgrading it and they show a picture for each month of progress. The last picture shows an unfinished space and the only promise is late Spring 2018, which is June.

So ok, we've encountered these delays from over-optimistic initial projections from United. At a certain point we all have to move on and find closure from the disappointments and heart breaks in life. Or do we wish Polaris had never been launched?

Is United perfect? No.

Is Newark perfect? No.

I did say NYC/NJ contractors.

I started this thread about a rumored 787-10 pilot base which appeared on airliners.net and disappeared within 10 minutes - a direct quote from a UA Exec (title I don't remember) but something to do with fleet planning. Although unconfirmed, I thought the possibility of getting the 787-10 into Newark might be a development avgeeks might find positive.

It's a tough crowd.