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Old Sep 30, 2017, 4:25 pm
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help checking loads
Hi,

Can someone check the loads for me on FRA to SFO on 14/10 UA59 please?

Thanks
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by haroon145
Hi,

Can someone check the loads for me on FRA to SFO on 14/10 UA59 please?

Thanks
Access to load are considered proprietary by the airlines and therefore not available for public access.
Seat maps are public but not reliable.

You can access Expert Mode by enabling it in your UA profile.

You can see Business class info by use of https://www.cablepick.net/united -- this is a hack of UA Flight Status. May take repeated attempts to get to work.
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 10:24 pm
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Or pay for a subscription to ExpertFlyer (www.experflyer.com)

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Old Sep 30, 2017, 10:46 pm
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Or pay for a subscription to ExpertFlyer (www.experflyer.com)
But that still does not provide the true "loads." Just provides a partial view of the Expert mode report.
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Old Sep 30, 2017, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
But that still does not provide the true "loads." Just provides a partial view of the Expert mode report.
Obviously. But the OP is implying "hey, how full is this aircraft?" EF is another way to do it as are the methods you replied with.

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Old Sep 30, 2017, 11:01 pm
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Originally Posted by RobOnLI
Obviously. But the OP is implying "hey, how full is this aircraft?" EF is another way to do it as are the methods you replied with.

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EF provides no information on "loads" that is not already available on united.com for free, i.e., inventory and seat maps.
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Old Apr 13, 2018, 11:59 pm
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How to check flight load?
is it possible to check the load situation on a UA flight? Like how many seats are left.

tha me in advance.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 12:01 am
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In Economy, other than looking at the seatmap (a poor indicator), no.

When just a few seats remain, Expert Mode provides info on the number of seats remaining to be sold.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 12:19 am
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So which fare class should i look for?
Y? M?
if it says Y9 then it means that only 9 seats in economy are left?
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 12:42 am
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Originally Posted by Flyingwasabi
So which fare class should i look for?
Y? M?
if it says Y9 then it means that only 9 seats in economy are left?
No, if less than Y9, then you can sort of believe, otherwise if there are multiple 9s on economy fare class, then it not providing anything useful

So except when Y is nearly fully booked, there is no useful, public, information on economy load.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 6:58 am
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Originally Posted by Flyingwasabi
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o if it says Y9 then it means that only 9 seats in economy are left?
No. Y9 means "nine or more Y seats available".
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 7:52 am
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
No, if less than Y9, then you can sort of believe, otherwise if there are multiple 9s on economy fare class, then it not providing anything useful

So except when Y is nearly fully booked, there is no useful, public, information on economy load.
The for sale numbers don't match actual loads, due to overbooking both into premium cabin (if any) as well as in general (expecting no-shows/misconnects/etc).
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by mduell
The for sale numbers don't match actual loads, due to overbooking both into premium cabin (if any) as well as in general (expecting no-shows/misconnects/etc).
Very true but Y less than 9 is an indication of a flight nearing capacity. The exact number is still unknown but that is about the only indication one can get from the public numbers which was the OP's. The intent of the comment was to point out how little one can know or derive from the public information.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 12:33 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
.........point out how little one can know or derive from the public information.
Exactly and that's how airlines want it. UA certainly doesn't want AA to know their actual flight loads for each flight and vice versa.
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Old Apr 14, 2018, 3:06 pm
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Exactly and that's how airlines want it. UA certainly doesn't want AA to know their actual flight loads for each flight and vice versa.
Is it really that valuable? They implicitly publish their J/F loads.
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