UA1175 Emergency Landing 13 February 2018
Feb 16, 2018, 4:38 pm
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What "happened a few times and it's usually a quick fix"? A cowling coming off in mid-flight? Someone climbs out on the wing and then onto the engine at 32,000' to fix it with the spare cowling they just happen to carry the hold because it happens so often? I'd like to see that
I've lived here off and on for 57 years. In that time, had an Aloha Airlines 737 pop a top, a United Airlines 747 lose a baggage door and paneling above it, and this. No other cowlings coming off mid-flight to/from Hawaii.
Feb 16, 2018, 5:14 pm
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Another DC-10 design flaw was the positioning of all three hydraulic lines side-by-side-by-side in the empennage, which led to a total loss of control in UA232 following an uncontained turbine disk failure in the #2 (tail) engine.
No events where DC-10 engines simply “fell off”, to my knowledge, aside from AA191, which was indeed a result of a sloppy engine change practice using a forklift.
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Feb 16, 2018, 7:18 pm
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The DC-10 design flaw I think the poster conflates with the engine issue involves the bulk cargo door locking mechanism. An AA DC-10 blew a bulk cargo door shortly after departure from DTW in the early 70s and rapidly decompressed, but landed safely. The Turkish (THY) DC-10 in Paris was not so lucky, as the issue led to a catastrophic structural failure, inflight loss of control and death of 300+ pax and crew. At the time the worst air disaster ever.
Another DC-10 design flaw was the positioning of all three hydraulic lines side-by-side-by-side in the empennage, which led to a total loss of control in UA232 following an uncontained turbine disk failure in the #2 (tail) engine.
No events where DC-10 engines simply “fell off”, to my knowledge, aside from AA191, which was indeed a result of a sloppy engine change practice using a forklift.
Feb 16, 2018, 8:32 pm
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It's been interesting seeing the discussion of AA191 -- but not for the fact that an AA agent moved them up to the next earlier flight after they showed up at ORD a little early that day, my (at that time 3-yr old) wife and her family would have been onboard that day. Scary to think about what could have been, but very reassuring to know that the lessons learned from these events have led to the excellent safety record of modern-day U.S. aircraft.
Feb 16, 2018, 8:57 pm
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I remember watching the air disasters episode and that it was the worst accident in US aviation history. I thought at the end, there was a statement that there has never been another similar accident after they made the changes.
You would think that someone at Boeing would have looked at the wake turbulence during the design and testing of the 757 and seen that it might be an issue.
It's been interesting seeing the discussion of AA191 -- but not for the fact that an AA agent moved them up to the next earlier flight after they showed up at ORD a little early that day, my (at that time 3-yr old) wife and her family would have been onboard that day. Scary to think about what could have been...
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Feb 19, 2018, 8:41 pm
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Mar 6, 2018, 5:50 pm
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HONOLULU (HawaiiNewsNow) -A United Airlines plane that had to make an emergency landing as it flew to Hawaii last month was about 37,000 feet in the air before its engine cover ripped off, according to a preliminary report by the National Transportation Safety Report.
At around noon on Feb. 13, the Honolulu-bound flight from San Francisco, Calif. experienced an “in-flight separation of a fan blade and subsequent loss of the inlet and fan cowls of the right engine” while descending into the Daniel K. International Airport, the report said.
At around noon on Feb. 13, the Honolulu-bound flight from San Francisco, Calif. experienced an “in-flight separation of a fan blade and subsequent loss of the inlet and fan cowls of the right engine” while descending into the Daniel K. International Airport, the report said.
Mar 6, 2018, 6:54 pm
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Also, A/C flew into SFO from HNL last night after taking a test flight earlier on Monday AM in and out of HNL:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N773UA
David
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N773UA
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Mar 11, 2021, 9:19 pm
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Resurrecting an old thread (though perhaps more relevant in light of the UA328 incident last month) to share a phenomenal interview with Captain Chris Behnam, who commanded UA1175 on 2/13/18. If you have an hour to kill, I can't recommend this enough.
It's a tremendous discussion of airmanship, CRM, crew coordination in an emergency, and a rather illuminating look at how close this flight came to a disastrous ending. Kudos to Captain Behnam, FO Ayers and FO Gagarin for their skilled management of a very serious failure, a feat that certainly deserves more recognition.
It's a tremendous discussion of airmanship, CRM, crew coordination in an emergency, and a rather illuminating look at how close this flight came to a disastrous ending. Kudos to Captain Behnam, FO Ayers and FO Gagarin for their skilled management of a very serious failure, a feat that certainly deserves more recognition.
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