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Old Sep 15, 2017, 9:40 am
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DOT Complaint Process

I am considering filing a DOT complaint on an issue, I know how to but I was wondering what happens down the road after filing ?
What communications take place ,is it typically 100% between the person who files and DOT
Does the party, UA or other respond to the filer
Time frame etc
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 10:06 am
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IME, the DOT may forward your complaint to the carrier and asked to be copied on carrier's response to you. Carrier has 30 days to acknowledge and 60 days 'to provide a substantive response.' You may not think the response is adequate. The DOT doesn't (generally) pursue individual claims but instead looks at enforcement action after seeing a pattern of complaints. That's the reason why one should take the time to make a thoughtful complaint. Rambling and venting are valueless here.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by wanderingkev
I am considering filing a DOT complaint on an issue, I know how to but I was wondering what happens down the road after filing ?
What communications take place ,is it typically 100% between the person who files and DOT
Does the party, UA or other respond to the filer
Time frame etc
Thx
The one time I filed a complaint with the DOT about (old) UA (while UA and CO were operating independently, and specifically re 14 CFR 253.4(b)-(c)), I think I got an auto ack from the DOT that my complaint had been received and then everything after was from United via snailmail -- never heard from the DOT again.

This seems to be the process with federal agencies; with the FCC any updates you make to a complaint appear to be auto CC'd to the target of the complaint and for my most recent complaint, communication has been a mix of both electronic ("Nope, still appear to be violating 47 CFR 79.1(j)!"), paper ("We think we fixed it, will you let the FCC close the complaint?")

In general, 30 days seems to be the "allowed" timeframe for a response to be made.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
IME, the DOT may forward your complaint to the carrier and asked to be copied on carrier's response to you. Carrier has 30 days to acknowledge and 60 days 'to provide a substantive response.' You may not think the response is adequate. The DOT doesn't (generally) pursue individual claims but instead looks at enforcement action after seeing a pattern of complaints. That's the reason why one should take the time to make a thoughtful complaint. Rambling and venting are valueless here.
I've filed a handful of DOT complaints over the past several years, and this is pretty much always the case. You generally won't hear back from the DOT except for the acknowledgement of your complaint and note that they've forwarded it to the airline. There rest of your communication will be with the airline directly.

I've had a single exception to that rule where a trial attorney from the enforcement division of the DOT followed up with a few questions, but I think that is exceptionally rare and probably because there was enough of a pattern of issues that they were considering enforcement action.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 11:35 am
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The DOT process forces the carrier to acknowledge the issue and counts in that the DOT assembles the stats.

It does not mean that the carrier will accede to the demands of the passenger or that anything will change. The DOT generally does not provide enforcement action that results in the consumer getting anything directly.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by sbm12
The DOT process forces the carrier to acknowledge the issue and counts in that the DOT assembles the stats.

It does not mean that the carrier will accede to the demands of the passenger or that anything will change. The DOT generally does not provide enforcement action that results in the consumer getting anything directly.
Thanks, my issue concerns a general policy that I would like to flag
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 2:04 pm
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Thanks, my issue concerns a general policy that I would like to flag
Do what you will, but, IMHO, unless you can point to a CFR that's being violated or a practice that is unfair and deceptive in Federal Trade Commission parlance, you're wasting your time.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 2:21 pm
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Originally Posted by 3Cforme
Do what you will, but, IMHO, unless you can point to a CFR that's being violated or a practice that is unfair and deceptive in Federal Trade Commission parlance, you're wasting your time.
Unfair is my line,not much of rambler Thx
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