United: Please Stop Assuming Int'l P Fares are Upgrades
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United: Please Stop Assuming Int'l P Fares are Upgrades
Last month, I purchased SNA-LIS as a round-trip, with the return being LIS-EWR-SNA. Fast forward to yesterday when I noticed there was a schedule change, even though it was only 10 minutes, I still had to click on "Accept Changes." When I clicked through to try and re-select seats (it erased my previous selections), it threw out the:
So, I called in since the ticket was now out of sync, and the agent who I got kept on insisting that my fare was an economy fare with a free upgrade to business. I kept on countering that with, "if you look at the fare basis, it does not say VUP, WUP, etc..." And he even indicated that he would have to re-seat me in Y because there isn't upgrade space available. I then politely excused myself and ended the call. I HUACA'ed and managed to get the ticket re-synchronized.
Therefore, what is with the agents and not realizing that international P fares are not like domestic P fares?
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Therefore, what is with the agents and not realizing that international P fares are not like domestic P fares?
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I just called in again, and got another agent who did not give me any hassle and just re-synced the ticket with the reservation.
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Indeed, if you do a search for first-class fares domestically, the lower-priced tickets are often P fares. There's no reason for agents to ever assume P fares are upgrades.
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#8
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I had a similar issue when checking in for a AMS-IAD flight about two weeks ago. The agent changed my seat to coach by mistake. When trying to undo the mistake the Supervisor stated that this was an upgrade and would be difficult to get the seat back. I had to show that that was a paid P fare ticket. He then got my business seat back and all was fine.
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What you experienced is one of my biggest issues with United. The way they market/sell and then subsequently treat P-fares is very, very misleading and it's hit and miss with agents that fully understand them.
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Contrary to what some say, this STILL IS AN ISSUE!! 2 weeks ago I called to do an SDC (yeah, my mistake, but I was driving and did not want to use the app) and the agent said I can only SDC to economy due to my economy fare basis. There was both P and the underlying W economy fare open, so I should have gotten the seat. I hung up and when I arrived at the airport, did it online in 15 seconds flat.
P fares being confused as economy upgrades remains a big issue for me with UA.
P fares being confused as economy upgrades remains a big issue for me with UA.
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#12
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Referring to all premium cabin fares as "economy with upgrade" is SOP for all rebooking, or so it would appear.
Never let them get away away with it. It's straight-up fraud.
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Strange?
I have had several P and Z fare flights requiring reissuance or rebooking, including IRROPS situations, recently and never encountered anything like this.
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I think lots cheap P class are economy-upgrade fare.
It sold as P class but fare basis is "VXXXXXXX", which means "V-up".
If any IRROP happened, the app will auto search the same fare class based on the First letter of fare basis. It means, if there is any IRROP happen, the app will only show options of Economy "V" class instead of "P" class.
Just contact agents, phone or airport, and HUACA when necessary.
It sold as P class but fare basis is "VXXXXXXX", which means "V-up".
If any IRROP happened, the app will auto search the same fare class based on the First letter of fare basis. It means, if there is any IRROP happen, the app will only show options of Economy "V" class instead of "P" class.
Just contact agents, phone or airport, and HUACA when necessary.
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Again, it's the UA "bad apple" problem.