Ill & Involuntarily Removed from United Flight HKG -> SFO
#76
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#77
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The flight crew and the captain were in an uncomfortable position of making a judgement call about whether someone is healthy enough to fly, and they probably don't have the medical expertise of doctors. The choice was between inconveniencing one person vs potentially inconveniencing 200+. So they chose the solution that impacted the fewest people. But the OP would be more comfortable resting in a hotel than on an airplane - even in business class.
Once, I was on an AA flight LAX-AUS. During boarding the guy sitting behind me threw up, in an airsick bag. A FA talks to him and I expected she would tell him to get off. But she hands him a garbage bag and allows him to stay on the flight. He threw up a few more times during taxi and the first 30 minutes after take off. Oh, and that same FA was serving snacks and drinks - hope she washed her hands before the service.
Once, I was on an AA flight LAX-AUS. During boarding the guy sitting behind me threw up, in an airsick bag. A FA talks to him and I expected she would tell him to get off. But she hands him a garbage bag and allows him to stay on the flight. He threw up a few more times during taxi and the first 30 minutes after take off. Oh, and that same FA was serving snacks and drinks - hope she washed her hands before the service.
#78
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#79
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You're right. I made the whole thing up because I had so little else to do in my life. Roll
your eyes all you want! In typical un-constructive fashion, the broader point is missed.
For the record, it was no less than 15 times. I guess that makes the situation alright from
a passenger perspective. And if I were the parent, I would have taken my child to the hospital, not on a plane.
your eyes all you want! In typical un-constructive fashion, the broader point is missed.
For the record, it was no less than 15 times. I guess that makes the situation alright from
a passenger perspective. And if I were the parent, I would have taken my child to the hospital, not on a plane.
#80
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I know you think you are in the right because you haven't thrown up since that time, but no 10 minute "chat" with a medical professional could easily determine whether you blew chunks because of food poisoning or a stomach virus. Stomach viruses are highly contagious and you have no idea who you may infect along the way. You self-diagnosed as food poisoning, but you too could have been wrong and maybe had a stomach bug. At the time, you too had no idea whether you would spew again. Sure you were feeling better after spewing, but there was no way you could know whether your stomach/bowels had different ideas.
And it's not that rare that some such persons are even told by the airline reps that if they don't fly as booked they will have to buy a new ticket and/or pay substantial penalty fees. Airlines encouraging sick people to fly? It happens way too often.
#81
For various stomach viruses that cause vomit, the break between one burst of vomit and another can be days and days. Even a 4 day gap between vomit bursts happens. You can pretty much bet that many such virus-infected, infectious people have been on flights and yet not been deemed "unfit to fly" by the flight crew. And yet flights aren't being commonly diverted due to such people even if they vomit on flights.
And it's not that rare that some such persons are even told by the airline reps that if they don't fly as booked they will have to buy a new ticket and/or pay substantial penalty fees. Airlines encouraging sick people to fly? It happens way too often.
And it's not that rare that some such persons are even told by the airline reps that if they don't fly as booked they will have to buy a new ticket and/or pay substantial penalty fees. Airlines encouraging sick people to fly? It happens way too often.
#83
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The gate agent, dispatcher, or flight crew can use MedLink for medical support on boarding an ill passenger as well as the more typical use for inflight medical issues.
#84
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#85
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I got quite sick about 2 hours into a TATL flight a few years ago and spent most of the rest of the flight in the bathroom. In my case I managed to get home, but I would have preferred the treatment given to the OP - get off the plane, get the illness taken care of, and come home the next day.
The difference for me is that I felt fine when we boarded.
The difference for me is that I felt fine when we boarded.
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The gate agent, dispatcher, or flight crew can use MedLink for medical support on boarding an ill passenger as well as the more typical use for inflight medical issues.
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#88
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MedLink can definitively rule out or diagnose Ebola w/o a test? MedLink is better equipped than an in-person visit with a doctor, an examination, and tests??? I think our national health situation has just been solved
#89
My wallet fell out as I got out of the Uber at SFO when starting the vacation, and I didn't notice until I was on the plane. It was a smaller wallet than my regular one, same dimensions as the passport, and feeling the passport in my pocket made me think I still had it. At the end of my vacation, Uber Support finally replied that the driver had my wallet as I hoped. That was right before I ordered the food that made me nauseous. I was able to pick up the wallet with everything including cash intact from the driver when I finally got back to SFO.
Glad you got your wallet back with the continents intact .
This started with some legitimate questions by OP, who clearly is an inexperienced traveler as the entire wallet incident demonstrates.
I lost sympathy as soon as OP made the unfounded accusation of removal due to no luggage, asserted that this was a punishment and then made a snide reference to not being beaten. Those kinds of accusations, without facts to support them, do nothing for OP.
I lost sympathy as soon as OP made the unfounded accusation of removal due to no luggage, asserted that this was a punishment and then made a snide reference to not being beaten. Those kinds of accusations, without facts to support them, do nothing for OP.
More so, how the Dr.Dao situation created a lot of focus on air line policies about compensation for IDB, which probably why the OP is wondering if they are entitled to anything , although in this case..it doesn't apply.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 30, 2017 at 12:08 am Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member -- please use multi-quote
#90
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This kind of situation is exactly what MedLink is for and why airlines pay for the service. The MedLink doctors are prepared for these situations and know how to make decision best decision with the information available.
None of us (pilots, agents, F/As, etc.) have medical training nor other expertise for making these decisions. Sometimes it's obvious. Most times it's not and that's when MedLink can be consulted.