Tried 6 J Class Seats And United BF Seat Beats Them All
Jun 9, 2017, 8:52 pm
#62
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LH+LX F > UA GF/BF > LX+OS J > LH J > * > CA J
Polaris soft and its mattress pad, cooling pillow, and pajamas sealed the comfortability deal for me. More modern and less abused interior would be nice, but I am not stepping a foot on a plane for that. I need to go from place A to B, often overnight, I want a good rest and happy to skip the food (but gimme a sundae ;-)).
I do not know what Air China did with their J seats, but on a day flight, I'd prefer LH Premium Economy over it.
Personally, I am looking forward to add OZ/SQ/AC seat experience in J over the new weeks.
Jun 10, 2017, 7:15 am
#63
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I disagree. The LH seat is better. Much wider, you can more easily turn and sleep on your side.
As far as C-class ... I love the LX seat ... sleep much better than the UA seats since there is more leg room. When I get a PMCO seat bulkhead ... that is close.
As far as C-class ... I love the LX seat ... sleep much better than the UA seats since there is more leg room. When I get a PMCO seat bulkhead ... that is close.
Jun 10, 2017, 7:17 am
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Jun 10, 2017, 7:42 am
#65
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Every seat is sleepable with enough Buffalo Trace in you. That said, I actually do like both the pmCO and the pmUA seats in BF. Yes, even the 2-4-2 configuration. Definitely beats the heck out of sitting in Y.
Jun 10, 2017, 7:57 am
#66
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I'm with you. Perhaps the seat material is softer and more plush in UA GF than in LH but the LH seat is certainly far more spacious and open. Plus UA GF just looks drab with all the gray; I love the bright airiness of LH's cabin.
Jun 10, 2017, 8:15 am
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Through a series of fortunate events (kids done with college) we go to try a decent set of star alliance J Seats over the last two years
Best for sleeping: Tap Portugal new A330 V3 window seat V3 (new lie flat config for some TATL). While a bit on the narrow side, the staggered arrangement creates a nice cubicle with two side walls and you still have direct aisle access. Very private and comfortable. On the other hand aisle seats are pretty bad since you tend to roll of the bed spilling into the ailse.
Runners up: Thai A380, AC 787 (middle seats for a couple). LH 747-8 upstairs, ANA 878 window inwards
Not as nice as expected: SQ 777, LH 380 (which as surprisingly uncomfortable)
Best for sleeping: Tap Portugal new A330 V3 window seat V3 (new lie flat config for some TATL). While a bit on the narrow side, the staggered arrangement creates a nice cubicle with two side walls and you still have direct aisle access. Very private and comfortable. On the other hand aisle seats are pretty bad since you tend to roll of the bed spilling into the ailse.
Runners up: Thai A380, AC 787 (middle seats for a couple). LH 747-8 upstairs, ANA 878 window inwards
Not as nice as expected: SQ 777, LH 380 (which as surprisingly uncomfortable)
Jun 10, 2017, 9:16 am
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I do have to say that the SQ F suite mattress pad is very, very comfy as well. I preferred it to the TG F suite on their A380
Jun 10, 2017, 10:17 am
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I rarely use IPTE, but played around with it a bit and thought the remote was about as bad as the CO DirecTV armrest remotes and the selection poor. I did like the Grado headphones - a nice nod to a local brand. I passed on dinner but loved the bagel bomb + cookie given out in the morning.
Jun 10, 2017, 10:34 am
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I find CA's J seats are virtually the same as those used by sCO. Comfortable enough, although I do give sUA C seats the edge in seat cushioning.
Count me as one who is not a fan of SQ's business seats. They are just not that comfortable.
Jun 10, 2017, 1:48 pm
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Through a series of fortunate events (kids done with college) we go to try a decent set of star alliance J Seats over the last two years
Best for sleeping: Tap Portugal new A330 V3 window seat V3 (new lie flat config for some TATL). While a bit on the narrow side, the staggered arrangement creates a nice cubicle with two side walls and you still have direct aisle access. Very private and comfortable. On the other hand aisle seats are pretty bad since you tend to roll of the bed spilling into the ailse.
Runners up: Thai A380, AC 787 (middle seats for a couple). LH 747-8 upstairs, ANA 878 window inwards
Not as nice as expected: SQ 777, LH 380 (which as surprisingly uncomfortable)
Best for sleeping: Tap Portugal new A330 V3 window seat V3 (new lie flat config for some TATL). While a bit on the narrow side, the staggered arrangement creates a nice cubicle with two side walls and you still have direct aisle access. Very private and comfortable. On the other hand aisle seats are pretty bad since you tend to roll of the bed spilling into the ailse.
Runners up: Thai A380, AC 787 (middle seats for a couple). LH 747-8 upstairs, ANA 878 window inwards
Not as nice as expected: SQ 777, LH 380 (which as surprisingly uncomfortable)
Jun 10, 2017, 2:09 pm
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(It was a day flight, so I didn't mind, but even so...)
Jun 10, 2017, 2:32 pm
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I've only flown the LH 748 and A380 in F but I though the J seat was the same? What about the LH A380 J seat made it uncomfortable compared to the 748? I've flown LH J on the 744 and 346 and didn't think the seat was very comfortable in that it is narrow and not well-padded.
Jun 10, 2017, 2:58 pm
#74
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For me, even though the difference was almost negligible, I never slept well on CA, but UA and even CO I almost always do (my memory might be clouded by the mattress pad though).
Jun 10, 2017, 5:45 pm
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I just got off a redeye flight in a Mint Suite this morning, and I'm kind of relieved to see someone else thinks this way. I was very impressed by the spaciousness of the seat when upright, but felt really uncomfortable trying to sleep. It wasn't a seat pitch issue (I'm 5'7), but everything felt too narrow, especially the footwell and shoulder area. Also, I prefer the seat controls on UA's seats, which are less... aggressive.
I rarely use IPTE, but played around with it a bit and thought the remote was about as bad as the CO DirecTV armrest remotes and the selection poor. I did like the Grado headphones - a nice nod to a local brand. I passed on dinner but loved the bagel bomb + cookie given out in the morning.
I rarely use IPTE, but played around with it a bit and thought the remote was about as bad as the CO DirecTV armrest remotes and the selection poor. I did like the Grado headphones - a nice nod to a local brand. I passed on dinner but loved the bagel bomb + cookie given out in the morning.