United/Asiana Joint Venture?
Nov 27, 2016, 6:41 pm
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United/Asiana Joint Venture?
Does United have a joint venture with Asiana?
In 2003, United and Asiana applied for antitrust immunity and received it from the US DOT. Their joint application (link) stated the following (bolding added):
The US DOT still considers the United/Asiana partnership to have antitrust immunity, listing it as one of the currently active immunized airline alliances (link).
However, unlike with other airline JVs (which are typically accompanied by significant marketing and press), there is no mention of any United/Asiana joint venture outside of this DOT decision.
So do United and Asiana have a joint venture or not? And if not, what happened, and why is their antitrust immunity still active?
In 2003, United and Asiana applied for antitrust immunity and received it from the US DOT. Their joint application (link) stated the following (bolding added):
United and Asiana intend to expand their cooperative activities in each of the following principal areas:
1. Route and schedule coordination. [...]
2. Marketing, advertising, and distribution. [...]
3. Co-branding and joint product development. [...]
4. Code sharing. [...]
5. Pricing, inventory, and yield management coordination pricing. [...]
6. Revenue sharing. [...]
7. Joint procurement. [...]
8. Support services. [...]
9. Cargo services. [...]
10. Information systems. [...]
11. Frequent flver programs. [...]
12. Financial reporting. [...]
13. Harmonization of standards/quality assurance. [...]
14. Technical services/maintenance. [...]
15. Facilities. [...]
1. Route and schedule coordination. [...]
2. Marketing, advertising, and distribution. [...]
3. Co-branding and joint product development. [...]
4. Code sharing. [...]
5. Pricing, inventory, and yield management coordination pricing. [...]
6. Revenue sharing. [...]
7. Joint procurement. [...]
8. Support services. [...]
9. Cargo services. [...]
10. Information systems. [...]
11. Frequent flver programs. [...]
12. Financial reporting. [...]
13. Harmonization of standards/quality assurance. [...]
14. Technical services/maintenance. [...]
15. Facilities. [...]
However, unlike with other airline JVs (which are typically accompanied by significant marketing and press), there is no mention of any United/Asiana joint venture outside of this DOT decision.
So do United and Asiana have a joint venture or not? And if not, what happened, and why is their antitrust immunity still active?
Nov 29, 2016, 5:33 am
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Does United have a joint venture with Asiana?
In 2003, United and Asiana applied for antitrust immunity and received it from the US DOT. Their joint application (link) stated the following (bolding added):
The US DOT still considers the United/Asiana partnership to have antitrust immunity, listing it as one of the currently active immunized airline alliances (link).
However, unlike with other airline JVs (which are typically accompanied by significant marketing and press), there is no mention of any United/Asiana joint venture outside of this DOT decision.
So do United and Asiana have a joint venture or not? And if not, what happened, and why is their antitrust immunity still active?
In 2003, United and Asiana applied for antitrust immunity and received it from the US DOT. Their joint application (link) stated the following (bolding added):
The US DOT still considers the United/Asiana partnership to have antitrust immunity, listing it as one of the currently active immunized airline alliances (link).
However, unlike with other airline JVs (which are typically accompanied by significant marketing and press), there is no mention of any United/Asiana joint venture outside of this DOT decision.
So do United and Asiana have a joint venture or not? And if not, what happened, and why is their antitrust immunity still active?
May 12, 2017, 3:23 pm
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2. I don't know why they have an active antitrust immunity either. Isn't JV sort of required for ATI?
May 12, 2017, 4:45 pm
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1. They don't have a JV. There is a rumor that Asiana CEO wants to have a JV with UA or other airlines (might be NH/SQ, not LH), and they might talk about it at the 20th Anniversary of Star Alliance.
2. I don't know why they have an active antitrust immunity either. Isn't JV sort of required for ATI?
2. I don't know why they have an active antitrust immunity either. Isn't JV sort of required for ATI?
May 12, 2017, 4:46 pm
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May 12, 2017, 6:09 pm
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i beleive this is the case with the AC JV. UA/AC applied for a JV covering basically North America (they are both already part of the TATL one with LH). IIRC, Regulators approved it, with some significant carve outs that the carriers didn't like, and so I don't beleive it was ever implemented.
