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Thank you so much for all of these very helpful links I will check them all out. I do understand codeshares as I always must use them flying my typical itineraries from Scandinavia to US as both of my “home” airports (GOT/CPH) are not directly serviced my UA. When I do go on UA site and restrict to UA only flights lots of choices come up but many are really operated entirely by LH. Other than going through the details of all of them, I don’t know any other way to ensure I’m on UA metal which at the moment, is my preference. As for Polaris flights I did see the posts and site for routes but doesn’t seem to show much other than the new planes (not the refitted ones) and only ones I think I saw involving EU go to either SFO or IAD, is this still the case presently? (I was hoping maybe it was updated to include more options. aldo for me PQDs don’t matter because I reside outside of the US but I am trying to go for the lifetime miles when possible. Obviously can only do that when flying US domestic or thtough the EU airports that UA directly services such as Germany or England etc Again though, thank you SO MUCH for this invaluable info—and so quickly!!! Always a pleasure 😉 |
Originally Posted by Shoredreamer
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....When I do go on UA site and restrict to UA only flights lots of choices come up but many are really operated entirely by LH. ... example please, that is not my experience |
Sure. Maybe I am not doing something right but using my most recent searching as an example Got-lax or vice versa, while all options come up saying UA, some say operated by LH and some say operated in part by LH. I certainly realize that due to needing the codeshare I at least must have an LH from Got but then the long haul comes up as UA but in reality some choices are actually LH flights (those saying “operated by LH” rather than those saying “operated in part by LH”) please let me know if there is something I am doing incorrectly as I’d certainly love to learn how to do it, if possible, to eliminate the ones fully operated by LH! |
Originally Posted by Shoredreamer
(Post 30284261)
Sure. Maybe I am not doing something right but using my most recent searching as an example Got-lax or vice versa, while all options come up saying UA, some say operated by LH and some say operated in part by LH. I certainly realize that due to needing the codeshare I at least must have an LH from Got but then the long haul comes up as UA but in reality some choices are actually LH flights (those saying “operated by LH” rather than those saying “operated in part by LH”) please let me know if there is something I am doing incorrectly as I’d certainly love to learn how to do it, if possible, to eliminate the ones fully operated by LH! However since GOT is not serviced by UA, GOT-LAX by UA only yields no options at all. So the UA only option will not work for you. Additionally, as a common connection out of GOT is FRA, and there is no direct FRA-LAX light on UA, united.com will suggest the FRA-LAX non-stop -- thinking most passengers prefer a minimum of connections. Flight search engines are designed to optimize -- price, travel time, connections, .... and a variety of other factors. And likely some preference for UA operated flights. So what you need is a way to force UA flights on some segments but not all. United.com does not offer that. There are third-party tools, such as ITA Matrix (now owned by Google) that has a powerful command language that can do such searchs (but it does talk some time to learn) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...thread-46.html https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trav...-lh-lx-tk.html |
Ok, I understand what you are saying. Perhaps I can spend more time with that tool and at least try to educate myself some although i am sorry to say but I’m far from technical. I do very much appreciate all of your many suggestions and help. Thank you again so much! |
Originally Posted by Shoredreamer
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Ok, I understand what you are saying. Perhaps I can spend more time with that tool and at least try to educate myself some although i am sorry to say but I’m far from technical. I do very much appreciate all of your many suggestions and help. Thank you again so much! |
Thank you again, I’ve actually spent quite a bit of time doing that already but unfortunately pricing changes quite remarkably if I don’t have at least the GOT flight attached to the long haul. I’ve tried all the scenarios even in both directions but cheapest appears to be GOT-LAX with adding the LAX-PHX separately. (GOT-LAX alone is much higher than with the GOT flight added) Ive now flown this a several times already, with LH, TK and now UA and find it quite difficult to get my bags checked in all the way through on my outgoing because even though they’re all star alliance flights, when checking in at GOT, there obviously aren’t any United personnel and the reps that are there whether at LH or TK are typically 3rd party and don’t have the ability to combine my pnr’s correctly. Going back though, when checking in with United at PHX, they are able to manipulate things enough properly so my bags go all the way through. I wish there wasn’t such a sibstantial price difference but unfortunately there is. Guess all I can really do is continue in the way I have because I am enjoying the UA long haul experience more than LH and for whatever reason, most likely fare class (I always do cheapest bsns fare) getting more miles booking/flying with UA but paying more too which I was hoping to not have to do! |
Any disadvantages of buying LH group flights on united.com?
I will be flying frequently from HKG to Europe in future. Recently I found that united.com actually can sell LH group flights at the same price as lufthansa.com. I am wondering if there are any disadvantages of buying LH group flights from UA? In case of IRROPs who should I contact? Thanks!
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Do you want Light fares?
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I'd ask what advantage there is to buying from UA?
The two reasons that would probably be most common are PQD and mileage earning. If you're doing a lot of HKG-EU, are you still a US resident, as if you are living in at a foreign address, the PQD can be waived if you change your address. If not, and you need the PQD, then UA would be the only way to get that. Mileage earning advantage will depend on the type of fares you are buying - in some cases, UA being $-based earning can be an advantage (mainly higher fares, but potentially also on lower fares where LH will credit, say, 50%) but on others, it will be better with an LH ticket. I can see some very small other advantages (profile already setup on UA, so no need to re-type your passenger information, for example), but those are so minuscule that its hardly a consideration. For IRROPS, anything any day of would be operating carrier would take care of you. Anything in advance, i.e. schedule change, you'll need to talk to UA as issuing carrier. There can also be some 'pass the buck' here between operating and ticketing carrier. So all else being equal, I'd book directly with LH - generally booking with the operating carrier is going to be easier in terms of changes, etc, so would go with that. On the other hand, no matter who the ticketing carrier is, the thing that will be the same is flying LH. Not sure what cabin class, but I just got off UA and LH long-hauls a couple of days ago (UA 777 and LH 748), and man, the LH economy seats are narrow. I normally don't notice these things too much, but it was hard not to. |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
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On the other hand, no matter who the ticketing carrier is, the thing that will be the same is flying LH. Not sure what cabin class, but I just got off UA and LH long-hauls a couple of days ago (UA 777 and LH 748), and man, the LH economy seats are narrow. I normally don't notice these things too much, but it was hard not to.
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If you book with UA you will not be able to pre-select your seat on LH unless you book directly LH
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Earning PQD on partner-ticketed Code-shares
Hi all! I swear I searched but did not find answer so I fear the answer is NO On Delta I can earn PQD (MQD in Delta-speak) on non-Delta ticketed flights. Does UA offer this in any circumstance? I am finding some good prices on SQ Thanks! |
Originally Posted by In2ishn
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On Delta I can earn PQD (MQD in Delta-speak) on non-Delta ticketed flights. Does UA offer this in any circumstance? I am finding some good prices on SQ For UA, to earn PQDs it must be 1) a UA operated flight (any ticket stock) or 2) A partner operated flight on 016 ticket stock nothing else flight numbers mean nothing |
This is a weak spot of United unfortunately. You have to have a ticket on 016 or be flying a United segment (and will earn only for those United segments) as noted above.
SQ has lots of great fares (I think there's like $900 west coast-Singapore premium economy fares). You will earn some miles but no qualifying dollars. Sucks. |
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