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Old Jan 29, 2015, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by moler
So what exactly is the difference between UA and a LCC?
UA just doesn't openly admit it yet
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 1:23 am
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Originally Posted by Polar Bear
I second that. I have bought $8K ticket on BR and $3K ticket on LH for this year travel. I am starting to collect miles on OZ and hope I would be *G soon. Just cashed out 150,000 miles for Asia business class reward and UA got my $300 ticket to MSY. I don't care how UA changes its earning structure now because I am not collecting UA's miles anymore.

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Wait a minute. Under the new rules, that $8K ticket on 016 would earn you 75000 RDM. The $3K ticket 33000. Are you getting these kinds of RDM returns on OZ?

It seems that the new MP program is designed exactly for big spenders like you. Why would you flee? [I know, there are many reasons for leaving UA, but I don't see why leave MP on high-$ tickets]
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 1:29 am
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UA changed its earning chart for NH metal

https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/mar...spx?ItemId=299

No notice from UA as usual and it is a change we probably don't like.

Now I don't know where to put my NH metal miles. Just booked ORD-NRT-CGK two days ago in L class for late March.

NH's own earning also kind of sucks, and fees for redemption seem to be quite high from what I have learned.

Any suggestions?
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 1:37 am
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As this concerns earning on UA's Mileage Plus program, I am moving this to the United forum.

If you would like to ask which FFP is best suited for your travel needs, please do so in the Star Alliance forum.

Regards,
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by LNKed
Yes, but weirdly, K and L on LX and OS have been bumped from 0% to 50%. Still doesn't change the fact that I'll be moving more flying to AA though.
the 0 to 50% bump on OS deep discount is an improvement for me as most of my private econ travel involves austria, but even so the difference in PQM between a 016 and OS fare makes this a pain in the ....

also there seems to be no clarity as to how the premier bonus is applied to RDMs at percentage - or am i wrong?

if i'm on an OS K and thus getting 50%, how is my 75% plat bonus applied - am i getting in the end 50% + (75% of that 50%)?
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 2:00 am
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It Was a widespread assumption that partner earnings were going to change post 3/1 so it isn't a shock. It's being discussed http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-1-2015-a.html
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 2:11 am
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Especially the el-cheapo fare classes on partner airlines wont earn 100% of miles anymore.

LH earning charts have been enhanced, as well.
https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mar...spx?ItemId=298

Its not all bad.
If you booked a LH transatlantic flight in K-class and its on 016 ticket stock, you at least earn some miles now.
Before March 1, you get nothing.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 5:16 am
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Award miles earnings have been gutted as expected and no surprise. The PQM earnings are a hair better (a few low classes in the LH group earn now some PQMs) but compared to the Delta new chart, it is not that great. For Delta, all revenue classes earn 100% premier miles on flights with group 1 airlines. For United, the infamous LH K-class still earns 0% PQMs. Well, United's copying of Delta is apparently selective.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 5:32 am
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got it wrong; but K-class on LX now earns some PQM.
For United, the infamous LH K-class still earns 0% PQMs.
Well, you will earn PQM in LH K-Class if the LH flight is plated on a United ticket.
If it is on a non-UA ticket, then you get nothing.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by warakorn
Well, you will earn PQM in LH K-Class if the LH flight is plated on a United ticket.
If it is on a non-UA ticket, then you get nothing.
Well, the language is not 100% clear but the page lists PQMs earnings separately as if they do not depend if the ticket is plated on 016 or not, hence no PQMs on LH K-class regardless of ticket number.

Summarizing, K-class LH segment:

016 ticket: some award miles (based on dollars per segment), no PQMs
no 016 ticket: no award, no PQMs.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 6:39 am
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Originally Posted by CaptainMiles
Wait a minute. Under the new rules, that $8K ticket on 016 would earn you 75000 RDM. The $3K ticket 33000. Are you getting these kinds of RDM returns on OZ?

It seems that the new MP program is designed exactly for big spenders like you. Why would you flee? [I know, there are many reasons for leaving UA, but I don't see why leave MP on high-$ tickets]
That is only if he is 1k, no?
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 6:52 am
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I agree that there are some pleasant surprises in that the lowest classes for some partners now earn miles (not a lot, but at least 25% or 50%) where before they didn't earn anything. So it may not be 100% like several years ago but one black eye is better than two, no? A little give back in an otherwise bleak FFP environment.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 7:53 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu
No its 100% bonus on base earnings.

So if base earnings are 50% - its 100% on the 50%, which will add up to 100%
For higher cabins, base earnings are 100%, cabin bonus is 200%, and elite bonus would be 100% of base earnings.
Or it might be 25% base for higher cabins, with 275% cabin bonus. How can you know?
A base is a base, until it's United base I guess.
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 8:19 am
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But it is final that the premier bonus (50% more for gold) on LH/NH/LX flights (on a non-UA ticket) for award miles has been enhanced away?
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Old Jan 29, 2015, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by jtka
if i'm on an OS K and thus getting 50%, how is my 75% plat bonus applied - am i getting in the end 50% + (75% of that 50%)?
Yes, that's correct. The assumption is you will receive 50% base rate miles, plus a bonus of 37.5% (75% of 50%), for a total of 87.5% of the distance flown.

Take ORD-VIE as an example, flying OS in K class on non-UA stock. In parentheses is the dollar amount (for this segment only) at which it becomes advantageous to book a 016 ticket as it would actually net more miles.

Distance: 4714mi
1K RDM: 4714mi ($428)
Plat RDM: 4125mi ($458)
Gold RDM: 3536mi ($442)
Silver RDM: 2946mi ($421)
GM RDM: 2357mi ($471)

PQM: 2357mi
PQS: 0

Also interesting to note on LX, L and K do earn RDM but not PQM, unlike the example here on OS.
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