Jan 5, 2015, 11:45 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Previous thread -- Presidential Plus Card Changes
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
-Waiver of 4 segment on United flights for Premier qualification (removed in 2020)
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
Related thread - General Questions re: MileagePlus Flex PQM
This legacy Chase credit card is not taking new applications. Compiled below is a comparison of current card-derived vs. status-derived benefits.
Overall, the current benefits of the PP and the replacement Club card are nearly identical. The key trade-off is increased redeemable mile (RDM) earnings with the Club card vs. FPQM with the PP card. Basically, the Club card earns an incremental 0.5 RDM / $1 vs. the PP card’s 0.2 PQM / $1. This sets a 2.5 RDM : $1 PQM ratio, which puts a price on PQMs earned this way at $0.025 to $0.050. Given that PQMs cost atleast $0.08 or more each if purchased early in the year via award accelerator, this is a pretty good deal for those who anticipate falling short of the upcoming year’s desired Silver / Gold / Platinum threshold.
Benefits unique to the PP card:
- 1000 FPQM per $5,000 spend (or 0.2 / $1)
- FPQMs are only valid for Premier Silver / Gold / Platinum status, expire 3 years after earning
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend (x2 hotel & rental cars for personal card, x2 restaurants, gas, office supplies for business card)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar (PQD) waiver (no minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits unique to the Club card:
- 1.5 RDM / $1 card spend
- PQD waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend, doesn’t apply to 1K)
Benefits shared between PP and Club cards:
- $395 annual fee
- United club membership (vs. $450 1K/GS, $500 Platinum, $550 Gold, $550 Silver, $550 GM, +$550 with spouse)
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- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- 2 free checked bags (vs. 1 Silver, 2 Gold, 3 Platinum)
- Hyatt Gold Passport Platinum
- Hertz Hertz President's Circle status (vs. Five Star for Premier Silver / Gold) (expiring 31 January 2023)
- CPU on award tickets
- No <21 day award booking fees (vs. $50 Silver, $25 Gold, $0 Platinum)
- No foreign transaction fees
- Concierge service
Benefits compared to Explorer card:
- only $95 annual fee
- only 1 free bag for cardholder and 1 companion
- 1 RDM / $1 card spend, +10,000 bonus after $25,000 card spend)
- 2 single-use club passes
- Premier Access (group 2 boarding)
- Premier Qualifying Dollar waiver (with $25,000 minimum card spend)
Sources (accessed Jan 1, 2015):
Chase United Card Benefits
https://www.chase.com/online/Credit-...ewards-new.htm
United Premier Status Benefits
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont...r/default.aspx
United Premier Status Qualification Requirements
Premier status qualification requirements
Prior FlyerTalk thread on Presidential Plus card changes
Presidential Plus Card Changes
Based on post by pstrasma
PresidentialPlus credit card - Benefits, Q&A, ....
Dec 11, 2023, 5:06 am
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https://united.com/MonthsOfMilesBonus
Thought I would post it here for those not checking their snail mail.
Thought I would post it here for those not checking their snail mail.
Offer has ended.
Admittedly on my wife's Quest Card.
Dec 11, 2023, 6:49 am
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I got the "We're sorry, this promotion has ended" message as well. That's very 
dd given the offer quoted above.
dd given the offer quoted above.
Dec 19, 2023, 11:27 am
#1263
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Does anyone still have Hertz President's Circle, presumably through the PP card? I still do and cannot think of any other reason why I would other than the old PP benefit. I wonder how long it will last?
Dec 19, 2023, 12:58 pm
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Just checked my Hertz account and I'm still PC. Haven't rented from Hertz at all in 2023, FWIW. I've been renting Avis this year and been quite pleased.
Dec 19, 2023, 5:50 pm
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Dec 20, 2023, 7:58 am
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I still have it too and haven't rented from Hertz in years. These things usually reset Jan 31. I status matched to National and haven't looked back!
Dec 20, 2023, 8:22 am
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Think I found a bug (or at least a manual process) related to the PPlus card ...
Long story short, I was showing ~24,500 PQP's in my account for the year, but NOT a requalification for 1K; the system was still showing me as Platinum.
Of those 24,500 PQP's, 1000 were from the PPlus card.
I just took a flight yesterday that pushed me just over the 25,000 PQP mark. Immediately (within 5 minutes of landing) - 1K requalification and Pluspoints posted.
Appears to me the "minimum PQF waiver towards 1K for Presidential Plus-earned PQPs" is either not working, or is a manual process somewhere.
I'm sure it's a very small subset of folks that would qualify for the PQF waiver, but still ... annoying that it isn't working as it should. Thankfully I don't have to worry about it now.
Long story short, I was showing ~24,500 PQP's in my account for the year, but NOT a requalification for 1K; the system was still showing me as Platinum.
Of those 24,500 PQP's, 1000 were from the PPlus card.
I just took a flight yesterday that pushed me just over the 25,000 PQP mark. Immediately (within 5 minutes of landing) - 1K requalification and Pluspoints posted.
Appears to me the "minimum PQF waiver towards 1K for Presidential Plus-earned PQPs" is either not working, or is a manual process somewhere.
I'm sure it's a very small subset of folks that would qualify for the PQF waiver, but still ... annoying that it isn't working as it should. Thankfully I don't have to worry about it now.
Feb 1, 2024, 10:05 pm
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Do you need to do anything to sign up for this or just add the card to those respective platforms?
I started PP with MC, switched it to Visa, then they switched me back to MC while moving all the other cards to Visa.
Big Chase 2024 announcement today. Nothing specific about PPlus, but it sounds like Infinite will now basically have the same 10,000PQP earning benefit that we do, and that it will be slightly easier for everyone to earn PQPs with spending by having 25PQP per $500 vs 500 PQP per $12k across the cards.
I started PP with MC, switched it to Visa, then they switched me back to MC while moving all the other cards to Visa.
Big Chase 2024 announcement today. Nothing specific about PPlus, but it sounds like Infinite will now basically have the same 10,000PQP earning benefit that we do, and that it will be slightly easier for everyone to earn PQPs with spending by having 25PQP per $500 vs 500 PQP per $12k across the cards.
Feb 1, 2024, 10:42 pm
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I'm on the legacy Presidental Plus credit card. Can anyone confirm if the PP card moves to the 25PQP per $500 or stay on the $12K? If its still on 12K, based on the thread looks like it's time to dump it and move to the Club card. I'd make up the incremental $75 annual fee with the extra miles earned on United purchases.
Earn up to 10,000 PQP: The UnitedSM Presidential PlusSM Card and UnitedSM Presidential PlusSM Business Card earn 25 PQP for every $500 in card spend, up to 10,000 PQP in a calendar year.
Feb 2, 2024, 10:25 am
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Last edited by paule123; Feb 2, 2024 at 11:44 am
Feb 2, 2024, 11:01 am
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Feb 2, 2024, 11:21 am
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That's weird. I had Chase miles post to my account, but no PQPs yet. My January spend was over $2000, so should have seen something.
Feb 13, 2024, 4:44 pm
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:01 pm
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