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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 8:51 am
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I poisoned your cashews
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 8:54 am
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Based on the route and the description, Senator Cornyn?
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I've seen senators travel much lighter than that. Maybe a staffer or two and maybe there was a security guy in there too, but it wasn't a show of force like the one you describe.

That they are that cagey on a plane tells you all you need to know about how secure an airport is.

The uber security for elected officials has always puzzled me in a big picture kind of way. Kings care about getting whacked because that is the end of their reign. Elected officials? They get replaced every couple of years. We have a whole line of wanna-be's to fill the chair that will be the same as the last guy. Whacking one just brings another head of the hydra- where's the impact there? The more we focus on elected officials security, they more they seem to be royalty. I'm not saying put bulls-eyes on them, but when you shut down whole cities, it is getting a little ridiculous.

Man, the Uber car service has kind of ruined the word 'uber'.

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I poisoned your cashews
Joke's on you! I'm allergic so didn't eat them.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:13 am
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Obviously it was SMI, J. Although the entourage was a little thin for him.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:19 am
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Obviously it was SMI, J. Although the entourage was a little thin for him.
I don't think so. He would need more than 6 bodyguards to fly his own airline.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:20 am
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Originally Posted by PushingTin
I've seen senators travel much lighter than that. Maybe a staffer or two and maybe there was a security guy in there too, but it wasn't a show of force like the one you describe.

That they are that cagey on a plane tells you all you need to know about how secure an airport is.

The uber security for elected officials has always puzzled me in a big picture kind of way. Kings care about getting whacked because that is the end of their reign. Elected officials? They get replaced every couple of years. We have a whole line of wanna-be's to fill the chair that will be the same as the last guy. Whacking one just brings another head of the hydra- where's the impact there? The more we focus on elected officials security, they more they seem to be royalty. I'm not saying put bulls-eyes on them, but when you shut down whole cities, it is getting a little ridiculous.

Man, the Uber car service has kind of ruined the word 'uber'.
Funny you should say that. I asked the FA at the door the reason for delayed boarding, extra security, etc. She smiled at me and wouldn't answer.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by txflyer77
Based on the route and the description, Senator Cornyn?
Probably not a Senator. Generally, Senators travel with little to no security (unless there's some specific reason why they need it -- e.g., a threat or another position they hold/held), so 6 people would be serious overkill. Governors definitely travel with a security detail, but even then, 6 people seems like a lot.

Originally Posted by PushingTin
The uber security for elected officials has always puzzled me in a big picture kind of way.
Generally speaking, it's heads of government that have the most security (e.g., President, VP, Governors). Senators and Representatives are replaceable, and there would not be a serious impact on the functioning of the government if one were taken out (symbolic impact, yes; operational impact, no). I always figured the reason for having a security detail for Governors was that it would have a more serious impact on the actual short-term operation of the state's government.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by txflyer77
Based on the route and the description, Senator Cornyn?
Nope, VIP was younger and thinner.
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Looking at it from a different angle, could the guy be a federal witness in a mafia case, a defecting Russian oil tycoon, or the next guy groomed to take over Venezuela?
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:47 am
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I don't think so. He would need more than 6 bodyguards to fly his own airline.
Not if he used makeup to disguise himself
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:48 am
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by Neil35
Looking at it from a different angle, could the guy be a federal witness in a mafia case, a defecting Russian oil tycoon, or the next guy groomed to take over Venezuela?
I like the federal witness idea. Especially without the snakes.
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Old Oct 13, 2014 | 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by PushingTin
I've seen senators travel much lighter than that. Maybe a staffer or two and maybe there was a security guy in there too, but it wasn't a show of force like the one you describe.
I flew on a MEX-IAD flight with SEN John McCain a few years ago. Just him and two staffers. If he had a security detail, they were invisible.
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