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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:09 am
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Does UA overbook three class First??
Looking at DEN-HNL next week. Three class 772.
Seat map page shows all seats assigned and "Sold Out".



Yet, MP is apparently willing to sell two Saver seats into a Sold Out F cabin.



Will they really overbook or would it simply error out before accepting?
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:10 am
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There are probably 2 blocked seats.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:17 am
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If they sell all 8 seats, they'll put crew rest in J.

The expertflyer seat map shows that seats 2A,2K do not exist from the GDS's point of view. Those must be blocked.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:37 am
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They did with me... I booked two seats DEN-HNL in F. Seat map showed full. I figured they were selling the blocked seats. I called in to get a seat assignment and they said F was oversold and they put me in J and refunded the difference in miles and gave me to $300 ecerts

These were award seats... This may be a glitch that opens SAVER award availability after (3-cabin) F is full.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:47 am
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I see this happen mostly when looking for award space in F. Sometimes, you have to be careful when there are connections in 3-class - 1st leg (fine), 2nd leg (oversold). If you want the F seat, always be sure you can select a seat, when booking awards.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by bajrbajr
They did with me... I booked two seats DEN-HNL in F. Seat map showed full. I figured they were selling the blocked seats. I called in to get a seat assignment and they said F was oversold and they put me in J and refunded the difference in miles and gave me to $300 ecerts

These were award seats... This may be a glitch that opens SAVER award availability after (3-cabin) F is full.
Um, this sounds like it would be fairly easy to abuse.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:53 am
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Originally Posted by bajrbajr
They did with me... I booked two seats DEN-HNL in F. Seat map showed full. I figured they were selling the blocked seats. I called in to get a seat assignment and they said F was oversold and they put me in J and refunded the difference in miles and gave me to $300 ecerts

These were award seats... This may be a glitch that opens SAVER award availability after (3-cabin) F is full.

Downgrade compensation for a 3,000-mile flight like that is a $1,000 e-cert + the refund.

If this happened recently, I would write in and request the difference you're owed per the policy.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:54 am
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Um, this sounds like it would be fairly easy to abuse.
Indeed. Even at a $300 voucher per ticket, an interesting strategy. At $1,000, wow.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 7:04 am
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Indeed. Even at a $300 voucher per ticket, an interesting strategy. At $1,000, wow.
It happened about 60 days out, so I think it was fair.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by bajrbajr
It happened about 60 days out, so I think it was fair.

It's not exactly fair when the policy says you get a $1,000 voucher.

They ripped you off at $700 per person.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 7:20 am
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Originally Posted by mherdeg
If they sell all 8 seats, they'll put crew rest in J.

The expertflyer seat map shows that seats 2A,2K do not exist from the GDS's point of view. Those must be blocked.
however, flight does not exceed 8 hours, so there is no blocked crew rest seats on the entire plane.

as for booking, the authorization levels i've seen are always at 8, so a forced override to book a 9 is rare.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 3:11 pm
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Originally Posted by channa
Downgrade compensation for a 3,000-mile flight like that is a $1,000 e-cert + the refund. ....
Originally Posted by bajrbajr
It happened about 60 days out, so I think it was fair.
Originally Posted by channa
It's not exactly fair when the policy ....
GG OVS DOUWNGRADE?

Does not that only apply day of travel?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-etc.html
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
GG OVS DOUWNGRADE?

Does not that only apply day of travel?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ation-etc.html
I'll look into it... perhaps I was short-changed.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 3:51 pm
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Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
GG OVS DOUWNGRADE?

Does not that only apply day of travel?
Yes
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by channa
Yes
So since the OP was processed 60 days in advance, GG OVS DOWNGRADE does not apply and "compensation" is probably the same as schedule changes (refund of fare differential) which is what it sounds the OP received.
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