R/RN one in the same?
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R/RN one in the same?
Good Afternoon,
I have searched extensively but cannot seem to find specific clarification to this question. When checking "R" class (or J, Z, P, X, etc. for that matter) availability is the attached "?N" class (JN, ZN, PN, XN, etc.) considered the same? So if R9 switches to R8, then RN9 will also become RN8 the same time?
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I have searched extensively but cannot seem to find specific clarification to this question. When checking "R" class (or J, Z, P, X, etc. for that matter) availability is the attached "?N" class (JN, ZN, PN, XN, etc.) considered the same? So if R9 switches to R8, then RN9 will also become RN8 the same time?
Thanks!
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If I recall correctly:
- JN/ZN/YN/HN track J/Z/Y/H exactly
- IN has been observed to sometimes be greater than I (otherwise equal)
- XN is frequently observed to be greater than X (otherwise equal)
- PN used to track P exactly (until a couple months ago) but no longer does (is equal or less than P)
- RN used to sometimes be greater than R, but hasn't been seen in a while, and is rarely booked into (a few reports with non-standard upgrade clearing booking into RN)
- ON is not always equal to O, but I forget which way the difference goes
- JN/ZN/YN/HN track J/Z/Y/H exactly
- IN has been observed to sometimes be greater than I (otherwise equal)
- XN is frequently observed to be greater than X (otherwise equal)
- PN used to track P exactly (until a couple months ago) but no longer does (is equal or less than P)
- RN used to sometimes be greater than R, but hasn't been seen in a while, and is rarely booked into (a few reports with non-standard upgrade clearing booking into RN)
- ON is not always equal to O, but I forget which way the difference goes
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So, if I have a PNR with one Premier and one non-Premier on it (using miles for a currently-waitlisted upgrade for both) and availability shows R1 and RN1 would it be wise to split the PNR to be able to confirm the upgrade?
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No one has reported seeing R#RN for a long time if ever. Best one can tell is there is presently no distinction of R, RN. Additional R1RN1 means a single space is available, it does not mean there are 2.
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Sort of. As others explain, one of you will get the upgrade, not both.
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Contrast this with I/IN, where premiers specifically do book into IN.
Agree with kb1992 that ON is typically greater than O, just as R typically greater than I.
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But it definitively can be the other way. I have had an agent/supervisor release an R upgrade on a flight that I>0 when R=0.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 pm Reason: typo
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Correction, I see you wrote it as R1RN1, so I missed that.
Last edited by SAPriorityTag; Jun 12, 2014 at 8:38 pm Reason: Duplicate post
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They are the same bucket. Reduction in R will reduce RN by the same amount. Not that it matters, because RN is not relevant to anything.
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