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Old Jun 8, 2014, 3:14 pm
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[Describe conditions for when pilot/FA crew rest seats must be reserved, what's provided by the contract, etc.]

737-800 Micronesia
Pilot: 1AB (2AB are blocked due to extensive recline of 1AB)
FA:

757-200 Intl
Pilot: 4A Or 4B
FA: 40DEF

767-300 3-Class (High J/P+)
Pilot: 1A???
FA: 43AB 44AB

767-300 3-Class (Low J/P+)
Pilot:
FA:

767-400 3-Class (Polaris/P+)
Pilot:
FA:

777-200 Intl 3-class (Polaris/P+)
Pilot:
FA:

777-200 Hawaii
Pilot: 1AB
FA: Seats 5AB. Available on short hops (including West Coast to/from Hawaii); available for assignment at check-in. Normal F seats with increased recline.

777-300 Intl (Polaris/P+)
Pilot:
FA:

787-8/9
Pilot: (Bunks.)
FA: (Bunks.)

787-10
Pilot: Bunks
FA: Bunks


Below configs no longer exist

767-300 2-Class (Polaris)
Pilot:
FA: 40AB, 41AB

767-300 2-Class (Non-Polaris)
Pilot: 6D
FA: 16AB, 17AB

767-400
Pilot: 7D
FA: 43KL, 44KL

777-200 Intl 2-class (sCO)
Pilot: One bunk. If there is a second relief officer, he/she gets a BF seat.
FA: Rest area is above the passenger compartment in the rear of coach.

777-200 Intl 3-class (sUA)
Pilot: suite 2A for XQ planes, 2A & 2K for XJ planes.
FA: XQ/XJ: Rest area in cargo level (entry at lavs behind E+); XD: Rows 29 and 30 of E+.
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Old Jun 30, 2014, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by AM-PM-DM
So far, about a dozen times or so, no one traded 4A with 4B. The flight deck crew, as well as the FAs, always invoked union rights.
If 4A wants to get up they disturb 4B. From that perspective I would rather be the disturber than the disturbed. Said another way - 4B will never have to step over 4A or ask 4A to move, so that way 4A can get uninterrupted rest.

Seems straightforward to understand why 4A would be preferred as crew rest.


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Old Jun 30, 2014, 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by SunLover
If 4A wants to get up they disturb 4B. From that perspective I would rather be the disturber than the disturbed. Said another way - 4B will never have to step over 4A or ask 4A to move, so that way 4A can get uninterrupted rest.

Seems straightforward to understand why 4A would be preferred as crew rest.


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Sure, that is logical. And from a paying customer's point of view, I am arguing exactly that.

But if you come out of the cockpit just to eat and watch a movie, why not use 4B? You don't have to step over anyone either.

I always indicate to the flight crew that I will not get up, because I am on pharmaceutical-induced sleep. Hence, I will not step over them. - I actually never have. They never indicate that this is their preference, they always refer to their "union contract". - Just for the record, I am by no means anti-union.

Nevertheless, the flight crew always chooses to disturb the paying customer. I admit we are talking about UA (CO) here. So the age-old adage "The costumer is always right" obviously does not apply. To be very crisp, UA rather inconveniences a paying costumer, than their employees.

And don't invoke "Wouldn't you rather have a rested pilot". It is a 7 hour flight. The pilots eat and watch a TV show, that's it. No disturbed sleep for them. They can do this perfectly form an isle seat.


P.S.: I even understand their stance on the "union contract". With the current management, I would insist on anything I am entitled to, too.
For UA as a whole, it is pretty bad policy though.
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Old Jun 30, 2014, 7:06 pm
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And, BTW, sorry for not really contributing to the WIKI.

My only WIKI advice. Stay away from 4B on a TATL 757.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 10:56 pm
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Why did I lose 6B on 3-class UA 777?

I had bulkhead aisle 6B reserved in business FRA-IAD. According to the 1K desk, the seat is not assigned but blocked and I have been moved to 10K. There is not another aisle open. They don't know why?
Crew rest? Air Marshall? It is about 48 hours prior to departure.

Thanks.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 11:01 pm
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Air Marshall, probably.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 11:45 pm
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Crew rest
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 11:47 pm
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Aren't 6A/B known to be at risk for crew rest?

I've avoided booking them for that reason.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by jumpingenes
Crew rest
Correct. Don't understand why 6 Bravo isn't blocked when seat maps are first published.
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Old Jul 9, 2014, 11:49 pm
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Huh, why don't they block it in advance?
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 12:55 am
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6A/B are nearly always universally blocked for space positive and/or crew rest

It will fail through if a previous scheduling change causes a AC Swap at any point after the flight it loaded (blocking lost)
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 1:57 am
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For SYD flights 6B is always blocked as crew rest. Makes 6A a good choice as the seat (6B) remains empty for almost the whole flight

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Old Jul 10, 2014, 3:33 am
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6 A&B are also given to GS & other HVF, even if it means bumping a mere mortal out of the seat.

6C is a common sky Marshall seat - perfect location, facing back, aisle, front of J class
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 4:02 am
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Definitely a crew rest seat. I've got 6A on NRT-IAD flights and wake up to see UA staff next to me. I'm just surprised the OP was able to choose 6B. I've never seen it able to be selected until online check-in and only sometimes then
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 5:21 am
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Why did I lose 6B on 3-class UA 777?

You'd think the 1K agents could be trained to know and give the OP that explanation. Not unreasonable.
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Old Jul 10, 2014, 6:06 am
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Why did I lose 6B on 3-class UA 777?

Pretty sure I flew in 6B a few weeks ago to SYD. Agree it is usually blocked and I was a little nervous of being bumped.. Perhaps they took an F seat on that flight.
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