VUP/QUP or other "UP" fares. What class fare do you book, for Frequent Flyer Miles?
Mar 23, 2014, 1:41 pm
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ON does not have an additional bonus.
I also had some questions regarding this topic:
1) What is the difference between a V*UP**** fare and a V****/UPDI fare? Both are economy fares that book into United First. In which cases are the respective fares offered?
2) "Certain premium cabin flight segments may earn different award miles and Premier qualifying credits than those defined for your ticketed fare class in the chart above (your fare class for each flight segment is displayed during booking and when viewing a ticketed itinerary on united.com). In these cases, earning is based on the first letter of the fare basis code, which may correspond to an economy cabin fare class including Y, B, M, H, Q, U, V, W, S, T, L, K, G, or N. You can determine your fare basis code when booking a reservation on united.com by selecting the Fare Rules and Restrictions link on the itinerary review page prior to purchase." Is there any clarity yet about those "may" clauses and when they are in effect? It seems that some people get the 1.5 PQM bonus while others do not. I guess/hope UA is not flipping a coin to decide if the PQM bonus is given or not. What is the logic?
I also had some questions regarding this topic:
1) What is the difference between a V*UP**** fare and a V****/UPDI fare? Both are economy fares that book into United First. In which cases are the respective fares offered?
2) "Certain premium cabin flight segments may earn different award miles and Premier qualifying credits than those defined for your ticketed fare class in the chart above (your fare class for each flight segment is displayed during booking and when viewing a ticketed itinerary on united.com). In these cases, earning is based on the first letter of the fare basis code, which may correspond to an economy cabin fare class including Y, B, M, H, Q, U, V, W, S, T, L, K, G, or N. You can determine your fare basis code when booking a reservation on united.com by selecting the Fare Rules and Restrictions link on the itinerary review page prior to purchase." Is there any clarity yet about those "may" clauses and when they are in effect? It seems that some people get the 1.5 PQM bonus while others do not. I guess/hope UA is not flipping a coin to decide if the PQM bonus is given or not. What is the logic?
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Mar 23, 2014, 4:40 pm
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The only way to know prior to purchase whether you are buying a true premium cabin fare is to click on the "View Rules and Restrictions" link. After purchase, you can also check the Saudia website.
Mar 23, 2014, 4:44 pm
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Mar 23, 2014, 4:46 pm
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I'm not sure there's a hard and fast rule. The former format is what PMUA used to use, and the latter format seems to be something fairly recent.
Mar 23, 2014, 7:30 pm
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Mar 23, 2014, 8:56 pm
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Ok when I went to the UA website, I put the airports, dates and asked for "Business/BusinessFirst" fare. I bought an ORD-LAX "P Fare" this is NOT a business class fare (not even discounted)? What happens if I want to go standby on an earlier/later flight, same day?
Mar 23, 2014, 8:57 pm
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I have had no difficulty SDCing with an UP fare. You will need P availability.
Mar 23, 2014, 9:12 pm
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Are There Any True P Fares Anymore?
Years ago I used to see P fares listed as Premium First Class fares. Now, using KVS Tool, I do not see any fares where the "fare basis" is P. I do see many fares with a V or Q or H fare basis that book into P.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
Mar 23, 2014, 9:31 pm
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Years ago I used to see P fares listed as Premium First Class fares. Now, using KVS Tool, I do not see any fares where the "fare basis" is P. I do see many fares with a V or Q or H fare basis that book into P.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
Mar 24, 2014, 12:45 am
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Years ago I used to see P fares listed as Premium First Class fares. Now, using KVS Tool, I do not see any fares where the "fare basis" is P. I do see many fares with a V or Q or H fare basis that book into P.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
I would be interested if someone could show me a route that has a P fare basis--maybe I have not looked far enough.
interestingly, if you select pek-bos (for example) you will get a BusinessFirst (P) ticket but the fare basis shows P**** for pek-ewr and V or S or T**** for ewr-bos....
Combinable, essentially?
and these UP fares are usually cheaper than Y. often they are even cheaper than B.
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Mar 24, 2014, 12:48 am
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Mar 24, 2014, 10:48 am
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pek-ewr
interestingly, if you select pek-bos (for example) you will get a BusinessFirst (P) ticket but the fare basis shows P**** for pek-ewr and V or S or T**** for ewr-bos....
Combinable, essentially?
and these UP fares are usually cheaper than Y. often they are even cheaper than B.
interestingly, if you select pek-bos (for example) you will get a BusinessFirst (P) ticket but the fare basis shows P**** for pek-ewr and V or S or T**** for ewr-bos....
Combinable, essentially?
and these UP fares are usually cheaper than Y. often they are even cheaper than B.
Mar 24, 2014, 12:46 pm
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a few years back, P was a discounted 3-class F fare but for the past 2-3 years it has been a discounted business /2-class F fare. This was around the same time UA started using J as the full-fare business and C was demoted.
Mar 24, 2014, 1:10 pm
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Click on the View Rules and Restrictions link when pricing the ticket. It will show the fare. Look at the first letter of the fare. Then compare with what the website is offering.
For example, the website may offer you a "United First (P)" ticket, while the fare is V2UP14N3. V2UP14N3 is an economy fare that books into P which is United First. It is NOT a P fare.
For example, the website may offer you a "United First (P)" ticket, while the fare is V2UP14N3. V2UP14N3 is an economy fare that books into P which is United First. It is NOT a P fare.
I'm booked BQN-ITO in November on a true P fare basis (confirmed with the Saudi site). While it's "domestic" in the sense that it's all U.S. airports it does include a Caribbean flight which seems to be a trigger for P fare availability.