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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by DelrayChris
They emit odor, chemicals in the vapor, as well as second-hand smoke.

Smokers and drunk drivers share the same issues in that their actions selfishly affect innocent people. But, I digress.
Do you have any cats or dogs ?

You know I could say the same about those who decide to travel and bring the cats or dogs with them on the plane right ?

Both cats and dogs have odor especially dogs, and even there is a cage, they are animals, so they can't hold like human does have to piss and poop in the cage, there goes with the chemical, and there are many people who are allergic to cat and dog fur, which could trigger an allergic reaction from rashes to an asthma attack, so are these people selfishly affect innocent people as well base on your assumption ?
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 9:41 pm
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Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
Do you have any cats or dogs ?

You know I could say the same about those who decide to travel and bring the cats or dogs with them on the plane right ?

Both cats and dogs have odor especially dogs, and even there is a cage, they are animals, so they can't hold like human does have to piss and poop in the cage, there goes with the chemical, and there are many people who are allergic to cat and dog fur, which could trigger an allergic reaction from rashes to an asthma attack, so are these people selfishly affect innocent people as well base on your assumption ?
Wow. I agree 100%.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:31 pm
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There is no point here in one side trying to convince the other. The one thing about this thread that is toxic is the mere topic.

I vape. I love it. People who never allow smoking in their homes and cars often ASK me to vape there, as the "choconilla haze" flavor I use most often is found by many to be very pleasant.

I vape in rental cars. I vape in non-smoking hotel rooms. I travel a lot, so if they put off a foul oder, you can bet I would be in bankruptcy from all the fines by now. Fortunately, most people find them to be anything but offensive.

There are three primary reasons that ecigs are prohibited on planes. First, it would be a nightmare for FAs. That is the primary reason. Between trying to determine if the vapor they see is vapor or smoke, they would never get a rest. For this reason alone, I support the ban.

Second, we live in a politically correct world. It has become hip to dislike smokers. Vaping looks like smoking, so many people hate vapers for simply looking like smokers. I don't like to be around smokers, either, but I'll die fighting for their right to do so (somewhere other than the plane on which I'm seated).

Third and final reason for the ban is that some people are actually stupid. I know that may come as a shock, but if some "stupid" smoker sees vapor a couple of rows ahead and thinks it is smoke, notices that the FA is in full view of it and allowing it, then guess what that person is likely to do? Light up their tobacco cigarette. Then you could have a mid-air fight, in which I might even participate under certain circumstances. (j/k)

I, of course, would never do so, but I know people who vape in the lavs, and there is never a sign of "smoke" coming from within. It dissipates too quickly. Unless they are intentionally blowing out the vent at the bottom of the door (see "stupid" above), then nobody will ever know they were vaping in there. If you see "smoke" coming from the lav on a 787, please, please, please report it post haste!

Finally, for anyone considering holding in the vapor so that nothing comes out, don't do that. The liquid is designed to be inhaled and exhaled promptly, just like a real tobacco product. Leaving the vapor in your lungs too long can cause bleeding.
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Old Feb 10, 2014 | 11:33 pm
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Utterly vapid thread.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by mgcsinc
I hate smoking and cigarettes, but I can't understand why someone would find these offensive, unless they misunderstand the technology.
Maybe I don't want to inhale nicotine and who know what other volatile compounds are in the vapor in e-cigs?

Originally Posted by KenInEscazu
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Finally, for anyone considering holding in the vapor so that nothing comes out, don't do that. The liquid is designed to be inhaled and exhaled promptly, just like a real tobacco product. Leaving the vapor in your lungs too long can cause bleeding.
Interesting, so it is okay to expose other people against their wishes to this same vapor that can cause lung bleeding? (of course its not, which is why it shouldn't be allowed in confined spaces.


I also am not really keen on having dogs in planes, even though I love them and have my own. I guess in general I like clean air in my planes. A sweaty smelly dude is as bad as a tobacco to me.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 1:54 am
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
That OK, I can't understand anyone who considers them acceptable.
My wife used to smoke. She quit a couple of years ago with the help of e-cigs, which she still uses. I hate smoking and the smell (yes, I'm a reformed smoker and you know how we can get). She agreed not to smoke in the house but even when she went out to the garage I could still smell it. Now she can smoke an e-cig in the car next to me and I hardly notice.

Not sure why people would find them any more unacceptable than drinking beer on the plane (which has a stronger odor than an e-cig). Or having a smoking room in the boarding area and then having someone with smoked drenched clothes sit next to you.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 1:57 am
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Originally Posted by DelrayChris
They emit odor, chemicals in the vapor, as well as second-hand smoke.

Smokers and drunk drivers share the same issues in that their actions selfishly affect innocent people. But, I digress.
Smoker and dog owners all seem to think that they don't have an impact on anyone else. My smoke shouldn't bother you. My dog is just being friendly.

Originally Posted by KenInEscazu
Third and final reason for the ban is that some people are actually stupid.
"some"????

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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 3:44 am
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Originally Posted by ORDnHKG
Do you have any cats or dogs ?
No. And I agree with you about animals inside of the PAX cabin and how they could cause allergy problems.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 4:14 am
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Originally Posted by trust77
Flew DEN-NRT and the passenger next to me was clearly huffing and puffing on their e-cigarrette during the flight. Is this allowed? I am familiar with the concept and have seen it a number of times being used in Hawaii, but was not sure if they were allowed or not.
Originally Posted by mherdeg
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This is buried on their dangerous goods policy page ( https://www.united.com/web/en-us/con...dangerous.aspx ). You might also try looking for it in the in-flight magazine, Hemispheres.
This is really the only UA-related discussion in this thread. The remainder of the posts debating the pros/cons of e-cigarettes seems a better topic for OMNI. As such, I'm closing this thread.

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