Mileage (PQDs, PQMs, RDMs) earning when purchasing Chase Ultimate Reward UA tickets
#16
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Curious...do you see any indication of the "BULK" designator prior to actually completing the purchase.
I am assuming these are created only after you have made the purchase....
I am assuming these are created only after you have made the purchase....
#17
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UPDATE -
So I had another back and forth with United and, once again, they refuse to honor any PQDs because of the "bulk" designation as everyone has been talking about above.
However, given that others say they've successfully used Ultimate Rewards point for PQDs then what we've got here is a problem of transparency. There seems to be virtually no way to know whether you're going to get PQDs or not! This is a friggin' pain in the butt which hopefully someone at United (or Chase) will do something about ... fingers crossed.
So I had another back and forth with United and, once again, they refuse to honor any PQDs because of the "bulk" designation as everyone has been talking about above.
However, given that others say they've successfully used Ultimate Rewards point for PQDs then what we've got here is a problem of transparency. There seems to be virtually no way to know whether you're going to get PQDs or not! This is a friggin' pain in the butt which hopefully someone at United (or Chase) will do something about ... fingers crossed.
#18
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I have a Mileage Plus Select card and have used the Choices to refund the cost of tix after they are purchased. Not sure if UR works like this but there is no way they could deny you PQD. You are just redeeming the credit card charge with the miles and it has to be purchased on UA.com with the Mileage Plus credit card. In fact you can do this up to 90 days after you purchase the ticket, even if you have already flown.
#19
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I have a Mileage Plus Select card and have used the Choices to refund the cost of tix after they are purchased. Not sure if UR works like this but there is no way they could deny you PQD. You are just redeeming the credit card charge with the miles and it has to be purchased on UA.com with the Mileage Plus credit card. In fact you can do this up to 90 days after you purchase the ticket, even if you have already flown.
#21
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A) Cash + Points
B) Cash
However, the Cash + Points option is completely flexible in tuning the ratio of cash or points, with the value of points set to 0.012 cents per point, and the total value of the ticket set to equal the cash price of the ticket. So at least at the point of ordering, there's a distinct cost of the fare that's being published. Moreover, in my experience in purchasing tickets through UR, that cost in terms of dollars has always been the same as fare that shows up on UA or through ITA.
So I honestly haven't seen anything that can really qualify as unpublished fares through UR for this layman. I do see that the tickets that I purchased through UR with cash has credited with PQD's, so I don't know how the "same cost" tickets in terms of points-only or points + cash wouldn't or shouldn't credit with the same PQD. Granted, the TA that UR uses may separate out tickets that were paid with points-only or points + cash from cash-only and use "bulk" tickets, but that seems to be something that Chase can and should do something about.
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#24
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It seems the travel rewards, specifically the ones redeemed via points, is managed by "Connexions Loyalty Travel Solutions LLC" for Ultimate Rewards, Thank You points & the FIA card services (probably World Point travel resumptions). At least the redemption site appears to be the same.
To my knowledge I don't recall seeing anything different from the reservation prior to the purchase that would have made it different from the others. I've only seen this BULK CHECK a few times, fortunately the flights for this year do not indicate this in the eReceipt, so hopefully they all count!
Spirit Incentives, they I believe, were used for those tickets purchased with the 15% off or "free" companion ticket with the Premier Thank You Card, different then the point redemption.
To my knowledge I don't recall seeing anything different from the reservation prior to the purchase that would have made it different from the others. I've only seen this BULK CHECK a few times, fortunately the flights for this year do not indicate this in the eReceipt, so hopefully they all count!
Spirit Incentives, they I believe, were used for those tickets purchased with the 15% off or "free" companion ticket with the Premier Thank You Card, different then the point redemption.
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#26
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I have been redeeming heavily using Thank You points (as well as Ultimate Rewards - both use the same travel vendor), in the eReceipt I have occasionally seen "BULK CHECK" as the payment method - otherwise I tend to see various last 4 digits of credit cards - probably those booked with the BULK CHECK are like you said - now I haven't flown any this year yet that were purchased with either program, my first one will be 2/21, but I just checked (because of this thread) and all my future reservations show credit card digits so hopefully I'm correct in assuming it may be limited to those BULK CHECK flights only... who knows why some are done that way while others are not.
"BULK" eTicket (FIA Card Services):
Credit Card eTicket (Thank You Network):
"BULK" eTicket (FIA Card Services):
Credit Card eTicket (Thank You Network):
#27
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I have a Mileage Plus Select card and have used the Choices to refund the cost of tix after they are purchased. Not sure if UR works like this but there is no way they could deny you PQD. You are just redeeming the credit card charge with the miles and it has to be purchased on UA.com with the Mileage Plus credit card. In fact you can do this up to 90 days after you purchase the ticket, even if you have already flown.
#28
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I disagree with that a bit. I believe UA gets full payment even when using UR points to book a reservation. I just booked one and used 20K points to bring down the cost but my receipt which just showed up on UA.com shows the full price of the ticket and I fully expect to get full PQD for this.
#30
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You redeem your Thank you points on the Citibank's Thank you POINT TRAVEL WEBSITE and as far as the airline is concern, they only see cash, not the Thank you POINTS.