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Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
Archive thread "Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
"Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays" {Archive}
#2461
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Midwest
Programs: Lifetime Platinum
Posts: 261
... there is a solid argument that when UA refuses to open upgrade inventory and/or sells the front cabin too cheap, particularly with the day of departure upsells, it risks losing revenue by alienating high-spending elites who move their business elsewhere.
Ultimately how UA handles upgrade inventory is up to management. But there is no question that the decline in upgrade availability has caused me to shift a substantial quantity of flying to other carriers over the past two years. If I have to pay for J/F, I'm only going to buy UA when it offers a competitive combination of price, product, and schedule, and that is often not the case.
Ultimately how UA handles upgrade inventory is up to management. But there is no question that the decline in upgrade availability has caused me to shift a substantial quantity of flying to other carriers over the past two years. If I have to pay for J/F, I'm only going to buy UA when it offers a competitive combination of price, product, and schedule, and that is often not the case.
#2462
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: San Francisco
Programs: UA MM Plat, UA 1MM, Hilton Lifetime Gold, Marriott Gold, Hertz Gold, CLEAR, AS MVP Gold
Posts: 3,620
If you are LT PLAT I would consider migrating as well. I just flew AS airlines both E and F class over the last several weeks in and out of Hawaii and have ZERO issues (two RT trips). I have always said there seats are far more comfortable than UA's. The staff and FAs are VERY nice. Baggage claim was fast with someone there to make sure everyone got there bags. I had previouisly planned on migrating to AS as it made the most sense for me for multiple reasons. Post merger with Virgin the new service destinations (ie. DIA) was a game changer for me. But somewhat unexpectedly late last January UA threw GS status at me so I am obviously checking into using this new status to see how things go. So far somewhat unimpressed with GS status as far as CPU clearance, instruments definitely seem to clear easier as a GS, and I have not had to use them with IRROPs yet this year where I am told they really shine. I doubt I will get the GS invite next year, not helping was the fact that prior to getting the invite I scheduled several flights with AS and mostly in paid F. I am a MM so I have UA GOLD status for life and if no GS invite next year that will probably be just fine.
#2463
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, Starwood Gold
Posts: 951
So in years past I have always used GPUs to upgrade business to first. With first completely gone, I have no use for GPUs for business travel.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
#2464
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: LAX
Programs: UA 1K MM; Bonvoy Titanium; most other FF programs...
Posts: 654
So in years past I have always used GPUs to upgrade business to first. With first completely gone, I have no use for GPUs for business travel.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
#2465
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,414
So in years past I have always used GPUs to upgrade business to first. With first completely gone, I have no use for GPUs for business travel.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
I have been trying to search for a reasonable W fare with upgradable inventory and either i'm doing it wrong or it's just not possible. What are the tools/methods you use to find? Is there a way to set a google flight alert or something?
I'm open to going to most European and Asian destinations from IAD/DCA if a GPU can be applied and fare is sub $800. Fairly flexible travel dates as well.
#2466
Join Date: Sep 2008
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, Starwood Gold
Posts: 951
Thanks. What would you say is a good price target for w fare that crosses an ocean? I saw earlier in thread W fares from select cities to NRT for $800 so I thought that may be a good target price.
#2467
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,414
However, with the introduction of UA PE, they have also had some R fares which have been lower than W on the same route (SFO-CDG for $1,200 in high season for example). But in any event, sub-$800 would be unrealistically good, and if you're also going to be looking for PZ space, expanding your W price tolerance would be a good start.
#2468
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,455
Echoing findark, any W fare under $1200 is a very good deal. TATL they are rarely under $1500. I also endorse the suggestion that you look for R fares.
#2469
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
RPU applied for my wife and myself on DEN-MCO Sunday 31 Mar .... J7 and still no clearing. Lots of UA stinginess going on here. I'm at least going to call back the RPU's now and wait for CPU... will be able to use them elsewhere.
#2470
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM
Posts: 6,351
"Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays"
Not to me. The opposite is true!
So far this year, I've been relying on GPUs to sit up front on every flight (except one that didn't clear after I had to change an already upgraded flight on short notice).
I will have burned through them all by about June.
Since P fares are simply out of my reach this year, it looks like it may be E+ for the second half of the year....
Which also means 1K status is going to be extremely close, if at all obtainable.
I've yet to purchase anything higher than V (or was it H?).
Still hoping affordable P fares will show themselves, but not holding my breath.
A more appropriate statement [for me] would be:
"P fares are not affordable nowadays"
Not to me. The opposite is true!
So far this year, I've been relying on GPUs to sit up front on every flight (except one that didn't clear after I had to change an already upgraded flight on short notice).
I will have burned through them all by about June.
Since P fares are simply out of my reach this year, it looks like it may be E+ for the second half of the year....
Which also means 1K status is going to be extremely close, if at all obtainable.
I've yet to purchase anything higher than V (or was it H?).
Still hoping affordable P fares will show themselves, but not holding my breath.
A more appropriate statement [for me] would be:
"P fares are not affordable nowadays"
#2471
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: BA Bronze, United 1K, HH Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,477
"Upgrade certificates (GPUs & RPUs) are useless nowadays"
Not to me. The opposite is true!
So far this year, I've been relying on GPUs to sit up front on every flight (except one that didn't clear after I had to change an already upgraded flight on short notice).
I will have burned through them all by about June.
Since P fares are simply out of my reach this year, it looks like it may be E+ for the second half of the year....
Which also means 1K status is going to be extremely close, if at all obtainable.
Still hoping affordable P fares will show themselves, but not holding my breath.
A more appropriate statement [for me] would be:
"P fares are not affordable nowadays"
Not to me. The opposite is true!
So far this year, I've been relying on GPUs to sit up front on every flight (except one that didn't clear after I had to change an already upgraded flight on short notice).
I will have burned through them all by about June.
Since P fares are simply out of my reach this year, it looks like it may be E+ for the second half of the year....
Which also means 1K status is going to be extremely close, if at all obtainable.
Still hoping affordable P fares will show themselves, but not holding my breath.
A more appropriate statement [for me] would be:
"P fares are not affordable nowadays"
#2472
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
The problem for me with the P fare being not affordable this year (as I have also noticed that) is that I'm not going to be able to get to 1K so no more GPUs. Last year with 5 international long hauls, I needed 2 to be P fare just to reach the PQDs (I did get to $15,000). This year, already 3 trips booked and only on one the P fare was equivalent to last year. Also not holding my breath for the next ones.
#2474
Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 1.9MM
Posts: 6,351
But I hope I am wrong!
#2475
Join Date: May 2007
Location: WAS
Programs: UA 1K, AA EXP, WN A+, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Amb, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,126
Managed to clear my SO using an RPU on DCA-SFO (Monday) and SFO-IAD (Tuesday). She's a Gold. Was not expecting them to clear.