IN class vs R class - priority or inventory difference?
Jul 23, 2013, 11:52 pm
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IN class vs R class - priority or inventory difference?
I'm GS and I have itinerary for 3 passengers booked on UA flight in couple of weeks as Standard Coach award (HN class) using my miles. Pax are GS as well.
I have wait listed this for Saver Business Award (IN class), but could also use a GPUs to upgrade (R class). Upgrade is not available to confirm yet, but chances look decent (over dozen open seats and good revenue inventory still left).
I was told by GS agent that both IN and R come from same inventory, and thus there would be no advantage in likelihood of clearing if I changed from Saver Business Award to GPU. Can anyone here verify if this is accurate?
Looking to maximize the upgrade chance, less concerned about optimizing mileage use or instrument value.
I have wait listed this for Saver Business Award (IN class), but could also use a GPUs to upgrade (R class). Upgrade is not available to confirm yet, but chances look decent (over dozen open seats and good revenue inventory still left).
I was told by GS agent that both IN and R come from same inventory, and thus there would be no advantage in likelihood of clearing if I changed from Saver Business Award to GPU. Can anyone here verify if this is accurate?
Looking to maximize the upgrade chance, less concerned about optimizing mileage use or instrument value.
Jul 24, 2013, 12:09 am
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Jul 24, 2013, 7:28 am
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I'm GS and I have itinerary for 3 passengers booked on UA flight in couple of weeks as Standard Coach award (HN class) using my miles. Pax are GS as well.
I have wait listed this for Saver Business Award (IN class), but could also use a GPUs to upgrade (R class). Upgrade is not available to confirm yet, but chances look decent (over dozen open seats and good revenue inventory still left).
I was told by GS agent that both IN and R come from same inventory, and thus there would be no advantage in likelihood of clearing if I changed from Saver Business Award to GPU. Can anyone here verify if this is accurate?
Looking to maximize the upgrade chance, less concerned about optimizing mileage use or instrument value.
I have wait listed this for Saver Business Award (IN class), but could also use a GPUs to upgrade (R class). Upgrade is not available to confirm yet, but chances look decent (over dozen open seats and good revenue inventory still left).
I was told by GS agent that both IN and R come from same inventory, and thus there would be no advantage in likelihood of clearing if I changed from Saver Business Award to GPU. Can anyone here verify if this is accurate?
Looking to maximize the upgrade chance, less concerned about optimizing mileage use or instrument value.
Jul 24, 2013, 7:33 am
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Jul 24, 2013, 7:38 am
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Two GS agents did claim that although IN and R (or RN) appear as separate fare classes they behind the curtain come from same inventory bucket. Anyone with definitive info on this?
Jul 24, 2013, 9:10 am
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It depends on what you mean by the "same inventory bucket". But it is clearly observable the RN can be > IN, so if you are reading the statement as meaning the chances are equal for either RN or IN, that is clearly false from the observable data.
Jul 24, 2013, 9:24 am
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Isn't there an option for GS passengers to convert upgrade space to award space? (haven't tried this recently so I am not sure of that benefit still exists or not) If so, then the likelihood of the two methods of getting into Business would be the same as they would come from the same inventory. The published inventory available to the general public could look different but for GS members only it would be equivalent.
Jul 24, 2013, 9:30 am
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Jul 24, 2013, 10:57 am
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"Currently showing I0 IN0 RN0 R0 C9 D9 Z9."
Hi - I have a side question, don't want to derail the conversation - but how do you see the class inventory above. I'm quite new to this sort of thing and wouldn't have the first clue what link to click etc.
thanks in advance.
Hi - I have a side question, don't want to derail the conversation - but how do you see the class inventory above. I'm quite new to this sort of thing and wouldn't have the first clue what link to click etc.
thanks in advance.
Jul 24, 2013, 12:19 pm
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"Currently showing I0 IN0 RN0 R0 C9 D9 Z9."
Hi - I have a side question, don't want to derail the conversation - but how do you see the class inventory above. I'm quite new to this sort of thing and wouldn't have the first clue what link to click etc.
thanks in advance.
Hi - I have a side question, don't want to derail the conversation - but how do you see the class inventory above. I'm quite new to this sort of thing and wouldn't have the first clue what link to click etc.
thanks in advance.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...cket-data.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ilability.html
Jul 24, 2013, 12:51 pm
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You have to enable (and agree to T&Cs) of Expert Mode. Then on flight searches the Fare Class line becomes a hyperlink to the data
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...cket-data.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ilability.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...cket-data.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ilability.html
Thank you very much ! tried Expert Mode and it works for me. this is most helpful
Jul 24, 2013, 3:05 pm
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Not for paid tickets - GS cannot upgrade paid tickets cheaper than W. X or XN are not actually deeply discounted coach fares (which are restricted from GPU use).
Note that on 3 cabin GS can also upgrade from I(N) to ON using a GPU
Others have spoken to the inventory differences, however 1 major difference is that as a GS you normally cannot waitlist the use of a GPU on a reward tickets (though some agents have allowed from time to time). You CAN, however waitlist for I from your X ticket.
Note that on 3 cabin GS can also upgrade from I(N) to ON using a GPU
Others have spoken to the inventory differences, however 1 major difference is that as a GS you normally cannot waitlist the use of a GPU on a reward tickets (though some agents have allowed from time to time). You CAN, however waitlist for I from your X ticket.
Jul 24, 2013, 3:55 pm
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