United announces order for Airbus A350-1000 aircraft
Jun 21, 2013, 4:37 am
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It is most unfortunate that an American airline is channeling even more dollars overseas (the A350 is not one that Airbus will ever produce in the U.S. - not even most parts). But, it makes economic sense for UA (and AA) to let German and French taxpayers support EADS so they can sell their product for less.
Perhaps if Ryanair had bought to Airbus they might have had more success with EU Competition Body and allowed RyanAir to buy Aer Lingus. So you can appreciate its not all one-sided Politics.
Its also a shame that United have virtually abandoned Boeing as Boeing was one of the Original Founders of United Airlines, and as for the 747-800 they are now being shipped to the Arizona Desert instead of to Airlines. A Sad Story
Jun 21, 2013, 4:43 am
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Jun 21, 2013, 5:28 am
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Trade works both way..Europes Most Profitable and fastest growing airline RyanAir buys ALL Boeings.
Perhaps if Ryanair had bought to Airbus they might have had more success with EU Competition Body and allowed RyanAir to buy Aer Lingus. So you can appreciate its not all one-sided Politics.
Its also a shame that United have virtually abandoned Boeing as Boeing was one of the Original Founders of United Airlines, and as for the 747-800 they are now being shipped to the Arizona Desert instead of to Airlines. A Sad Story
Perhaps if Ryanair had bought to Airbus they might have had more success with EU Competition Body and allowed RyanAir to buy Aer Lingus. So you can appreciate its not all one-sided Politics.
Its also a shame that United have virtually abandoned Boeing as Boeing was one of the Original Founders of United Airlines, and as for the 747-800 they are now being shipped to the Arizona Desert instead of to Airlines. A Sad Story
The 350 once again hits a market that UA will not compete until the 2020's. UA is buying what they need!
Jun 21, 2013, 5:29 am
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While Boeing was forward-looking with the all-composite B787, they have been falling behind the Europeans in many areas. As a lover of the B747 and a fan of Boeing, I am disappointed with the folks at Boeing. I am happy that KE is buying five B747-8i units, though. I'll be flying more KE when they arrive.
Sad, sure, and quad-jets are a hard sell over twin-jets in general right now. But the planes in the desert aren't 747-8i's (or the non-existent 747-800), they're 747-8F freighters. Anyway, United's spokesperson made it clear that they're only parked because they finished building them before customers were ready to take delivery and put them into service.
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Jun 21, 2013, 10:17 am
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It is most unfortunate that an American airline is channeling even more dollars overseas (the A350 is not one that Airbus will ever produce in the U.S. - not even most parts). But, it makes economic sense for UA (and AA) to let German and French taxpayers support EADS so they can sell their product for less. While Boeing was forward-looking with the all-composite B787, they have been falling behind the Europeans in many areas. As a lover of the B747 and a fan of Boeing, I am disappointed with the folks at Boeing. I am happy that KE is buying five B747-8i units, though. I'll be flying more KE when they arrive.
And your last sentence contradicts the whole idea of your first. Why are you flying a foreign airline if you believe patronizing other countries products/services takes money away from the US?
Jun 21, 2013, 10:24 am
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Darned good point. But that's Americans for you. And why Wal-Mart exists despite the awful things they do to the economy. They cost that person less money. That's all many care about.
Jun 21, 2013, 10:31 am
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Did you miss the additional 10 787 United ordered this week?
How about the 150 new 737 United ordered last summer?
In no way, shape or form has United "abandoned" Boeing....
Jun 21, 2013, 12:57 pm
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this is kind of comical. united has a ton of boeing airplanes on order. they certainly have NOT abandoned boeing.
Jun 21, 2013, 1:52 pm
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Jun 21, 2013, 2:15 pm
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This isn't surprising at all. Nominally, It reflects a combination of UA's affair with Airbus and let another of Jeff's rejection of the various good things that Gordon Bethune did at CO. More to the point, it reflects Jeff's idea of what is most important -- $$. Loyalty to means nothing, not even to loyalty to Boeing.
Jun 21, 2013, 2:35 pm
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I for one am really surprised. Given the projections for traffic out of major us mega-cities (NYC, SFO, LAX, ORD) and foreign cities (NRT, HKG, PEK, LHR, FRA) along with slot control at many airports, and generally increasing traffic world wide, I would have expected UA to buy a larger aircraft.
Jun 21, 2013, 2:48 pm
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I think that if we added it all up (as in % manufacturer of daily operations), the new UA is mostly Embraer with Canadair a close second, then Boeing and then Airbus and some Bombardier and Saab on the tail.
I see any news for wide body planes as good news. And I hope that they do some more domestic flights with them outside of hub to hub.
I think that if we added it all up (as in % manufacturer of daily operations), the new UA is mostly Embraer with Canadair a close second, then Boeing and then Airbus and some Bombardier and Saab on the tail.
I see any news for wide body planes as good news. And I hope that they do some more domestic flights with them outside of hub to hub.
Jun 21, 2013, 2:55 pm
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This isn't surprising at all. Nominally, It reflects a combination of UA's affair with Airbus and let another of Jeff's rejection of the various good things that Gordon Bethune did at CO. More to the point, it reflects Jeff's idea of what is most important -- $$. Loyalty to means nothing, not even to loyalty to Boeing.
United has 59 Boeing 787s on order, +6 delivered; it has more than 100 Boeing 737s on order. Compared to 35 Airbus 350s.
Loyalty is a terrible way to make major capital expenditure decisions. The A350s represent a better cost/mission fit, oh and helps UA avoid paying cancellation penalties from a prior A320 order they cancelled. How dare the CEO make an investment decision that's in the best financial interests of the company.
Jun 21, 2013, 3:04 pm
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Um
I think that if we added it all up (as in % manufacturer of daily operations), the new UA is mostly Embraer with Canadair a close second, then Boeing and then Airbus and some Bombardier and Saab on the tail.
I see any news for wide body planes as good news. And I hope that they do some more domestic flights with them outside of hub to hub.
I think that if we added it all up (as in % manufacturer of daily operations), the new UA is mostly Embraer with Canadair a close second, then Boeing and then Airbus and some Bombardier and Saab on the tail.
I see any news for wide body planes as good news. And I hope that they do some more domestic flights with them outside of hub to hub.
and more domestic routes outside of hub to hub? with the exception of hawaii...what did you have in mind?