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What happens when dropping status levels – E+ access, upgrade priority & .. {Archive}
Hi FT-ers,
First time posting - your advice has helped on many occasions!
My husband has been a 1P for many years, and I have been 1P or 2P. We have not been flying as much in 2012, so will be 2P for hubby and GM for me in 2013 .
We are traveling to Mexico in Feb 2013 - will UA sweep us out of E+ for any reason? If not, do we risk losing E+ if there is an equipment change or any other flight disruption?
Thanks - your advice is appreciated!
First time posting - your advice has helped on many occasions!
My husband has been a 1P for many years, and I have been 1P or 2P. We have not been flying as much in 2012, so will be 2P for hubby and GM for me in 2013 .
We are traveling to Mexico in Feb 2013 - will UA sweep us out of E+ for any reason? If not, do we risk losing E+ if there is an equipment change or any other flight disruption?
Thanks - your advice is appreciated!
#2
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Welcome to FT!, BeerFlyer1
There is no 1P or 2P anymore it is Silver/Gold/Plat/1K/GS
it is hard to predict what the new UA will do when status updates in February, but recent history would suggest there will not be a status sweep at that time. However, aircraft change or irrops could definitively create a problem.
There is no 1P or 2P anymore it is Silver/Gold/Plat/1K/GS
it is hard to predict what the new UA will do when status updates in February, but recent history would suggest there will not be a status sweep at that time. However, aircraft change or irrops could definitively create a problem.
#3
Welcome to FT!, BeerFlyer1
There is no 1P or 2P anymore it is Silver/Gold/Plat/1K/GS
it is hard to predict what the new UA will do when status updates in February, but recent history would suggest there will not be a status sweep at that time. However, aircraft change or irrops could definitively create a problem.
There is no 1P or 2P anymore it is Silver/Gold/Plat/1K/GS
it is hard to predict what the new UA will do when status updates in February, but recent history would suggest there will not be a status sweep at that time. However, aircraft change or irrops could definitively create a problem.
I would keep monitoring the flight and call in to make your case if it goes away.
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The thing folks are overlooking is that husband will be Silver. The question is whether they will sweep the Silver and companion out of E+ because they're technically not eligible to select E+ without a fee until 24 hours before flight time, or if they'll remain in those seats.
As transparent suggested, keep an eye on your seat assignments from Feb 1 until the day before your flight to see if there are any changes to your seat assignments. At the very least, you'll be able to select E+ 24 hours before your scheduled departure time, and any equipment changes through January shouldn't be an issue, as your husband will still be (Gold? Plat?).
As transparent suggested, keep an eye on your seat assignments from Feb 1 until the day before your flight to see if there are any changes to your seat assignments. At the very least, you'll be able to select E+ 24 hours before your scheduled departure time, and any equipment changes through January shouldn't be an issue, as your husband will still be (Gold? Plat?).
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I had this happen at the beginning of the year.
I did not lose my seats already selected in E+, as I was allowed to book them at time of booking. They remained selected even though I dropped in level. I travel and kept my E+ selected seat. Now I dropped from Gold to Silver which still allowed me access to E+, so perhaps that is the difference.
So mine did not get removed prior to travel.
I am back up to 1K so not an issue any more thankfully.
I did not lose my seats already selected in E+, as I was allowed to book them at time of booking. They remained selected even though I dropped in level. I travel and kept my E+ selected seat. Now I dropped from Gold to Silver which still allowed me access to E+, so perhaps that is the difference.
So mine did not get removed prior to travel.
I am back up to 1K so not an issue any more thankfully.
#7
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I suppose lounge access changes with status almost instantaneously though.
What's 1P or 2P? I was always UA Silver/Gold etc except between 2002 and 2011 when I went to CO (only to get merged back in to UA). Is that when 1P or 2P occurred? I think UA had Plat way back when but by the time of the CO merger, it was a new reincarnated adoption of CO practices. 1K & GS seem like rather new terminology too.
What's 1P or 2P? I was always UA Silver/Gold etc except between 2002 and 2011 when I went to CO (only to get merged back in to UA). Is that when 1P or 2P occurred? I think UA had Plat way back when but by the time of the CO merger, it was a new reincarnated adoption of CO practices. 1K & GS seem like rather new terminology too.
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These are the shorthands for the old United caste system, and have been around since, well, the dawn of FlyerTalk time (except for GS, which was added later):
2P = Premier (now silver)
1P = Premier Executive (now gold)
1K = 1K (still 1K)
GS = Global Services, the revenue-based super-class above 1K
2P = Premier (now silver)
1P = Premier Executive (now gold)
1K = 1K (still 1K)
GS = Global Services, the revenue-based super-class above 1K
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#9
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My experience with this was with regard to the 3/3 merger conversion -- As a premier/Silver, I booked a lot of travel on 3/2 (before the rules changed) specifically in order to pick E+ seats in advance.
In a few cases, there were equipment changes which resulted in loss of my seats. In those cases, I was able to call up and point out that I'd originally had E+ seating (which they could see), and at that point they were more than willing to move me into E+ seats without a charge.
That might be something unique to the 3/3 conversion and rules change -- they might not be as accommodating when the issue is loss of UA status.
So, I'd definitely book as much travel as you can before you lose your status, and then cross your fingers. If an equipment or schedule change boots you out, call and see what they say (and report back)
In a few cases, there were equipment changes which resulted in loss of my seats. In those cases, I was able to call up and point out that I'd originally had E+ seating (which they could see), and at that point they were more than willing to move me into E+ seats without a charge.
That might be something unique to the 3/3 conversion and rules change -- they might not be as accommodating when the issue is loss of UA status.
So, I'd definitely book as much travel as you can before you lose your status, and then cross your fingers. If an equipment or schedule change boots you out, call and see what they say (and report back)
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Family getting kicked out of E+ because i cannot make the flight
My family and I are supposed to travel to SFO over the holidays. Since I am 1k, I was able to get everyone in E+ and together when booking. Unfortunately, I had to change my flight due to a client meeting, and now I am hearing that my family may not have E+, or much of a seat pref at check-in because I am no longer traveling with them. Is there anything I can do to retain them in E+?
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What do you mean 'you are hearing'? Why did you ask? Often it's best to leave well enough alone.
And welcome to FT.
And welcome to FT.
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My family and I are supposed to travel to SFO over the holidays. Since I am 1k, I was able to get everyone in E+ and together when booking. Unfortunately, I had to change my flight due to a client meeting, and now I am hearing that my family may not have E+, or much of a seat pref at check-in because I am no longer traveling with them. Is there anything I can do to retain them in E+?
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My family and I are supposed to travel to SFO over the holidays. Since I am 1k, I was able to get everyone in E+ and together when booking. Unfortunately, I had to change my flight due to a client meeting, and now I am hearing that my family may not have E+, or much of a seat pref at check-in because I am no longer traveling with them. Is there anything I can do to retain them in E+?
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[QUOTE=sdub2012;19849613 Is there anything I can do to retain them in E+?[/QUOTE]
as others have said they should slip thru as long as nothing changes plane change etc etc To be 100% sure they retain E+ the only thing you can do is call UA and pay for it, are they flying with only Carry-ons? otherwise w/o you along they will be Dinged for checked bag fees and then if the rep sees they are in E+ and shouldnt be may yank them out of it or if they are skycaps you can use them and they most likely wont pay attention to them being in E+.Of cause teh bags may slip by as well since it should have been indicated from the get go $0 due to your status but once you dropped off no way to know how Shares will handle it
what the routing?
as others have said they should slip thru as long as nothing changes plane change etc etc To be 100% sure they retain E+ the only thing you can do is call UA and pay for it, are they flying with only Carry-ons? otherwise w/o you along they will be Dinged for checked bag fees and then if the rep sees they are in E+ and shouldnt be may yank them out of it or if they are skycaps you can use them and they most likely wont pay attention to them being in E+.Of cause teh bags may slip by as well since it should have been indicated from the get go $0 due to your status but once you dropped off no way to know how Shares will handle it
what the routing?
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If it is an award reservation, you have nothing to fear, as travelers inherit the status of the account from which the tickets were issued. So if you made an award reservation out of your account for someone else, even if you aren't traveling, their reservation would show your status.
I have confirmed this with multiple awards post-March 3 integration, most recently with my wife and 2 daughters to Hawaii over Thanksgiving (I was on a separate revenue ticket).
If the tickets were revenue (ie, you paid for them), I have no idea what will happen. Defer to the above responses.
I have confirmed this with multiple awards post-March 3 integration, most recently with my wife and 2 daughters to Hawaii over Thanksgiving (I was on a separate revenue ticket).
If the tickets were revenue (ie, you paid for them), I have no idea what will happen. Defer to the above responses.