Overweight passenger in middle seat
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Well, honestly, all I can advise you to do is to speak to the FA, and ask to be re-seated. Or just ask to be moved to a later flight. Seriously, what other advice can we give you?
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So the OP's primary concern is the COS issue?
Based on all the other things written, I wasn't sure how many issues she had.
COS are not allowed in the exit row, period. There are regulatons regarding that. If anyone needs a seat belt extender, they are not supposed to be in the exit row, at least that is what I have read and found out the hard way.
I had a similar experience in an exit row (the COS sneaked in her own seat belt extension so she could be buckled in), and I will not make the mistake of sitting silently if this occurs again.
Based on all the other things written, I wasn't sure how many issues she had.
COS are not allowed in the exit row, period. There are regulatons regarding that. If anyone needs a seat belt extender, they are not supposed to be in the exit row, at least that is what I have read and found out the hard way.
I had a similar experience in an exit row (the COS sneaked in her own seat belt extension so she could be buckled in), and I will not make the mistake of sitting silently if this occurs again.
For the record: The COS did ask the FA for a seat belt extender. The FA asked the COS how many she needed and returned with one and handed it to the COS in the exit row seat.
the COS issue was a
I didn't think about it until LarkSFO mentioned it, but:
According to the OP:
"The armrest between us would not stay in position due to her girth. . .As we were seated in an exit row, I doubt this passenger could have properly assisted if an issue arose."
Which planes have movable armrests in exit rows?
According to the OP:
"The armrest between us would not stay in position due to her girth. . .As we were seated in an exit row, I doubt this passenger could have properly assisted if an issue arose."
Which planes have movable armrests in exit rows?
As per the advice of a few FlyerTalker's, I did send an email. I received a quick response...
"Thank you for contacting United Airlines. Your e-mail came to my attention in our Executive Offices on behalf of Mr. Smisek.
I apologize for the difficulties you experienced during your flight with us. It certainly was never our intention for you to share your seat with another passenger.
Customers should always be treated with dignity and respect, as we strive to provide safe and comfortable accommodations for all our valued customers.
Customers who are unable to sit with armrests down and seatbelts fastened without encroaching on adjacent seating space will be required to purchase an additional ticket. We are not required to provide additional seats or upgrades free of charge. Our Inflight staff is often successful in arranging alternative seating for customers in these situations. Again, I am truly sorry we were unable to meet your needs that day.
I will include your comments in our monthly Customer Care report for internal review.
The situation you described for the second leg of your trip is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.
Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. Your feedback will be used in future coaching and training as we continue to improve our service.
As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you and your husband electronic travel certificates via separate e-mail that may be used toward your next purchase. Please allow 3-5 business days for processing.
Please give us an opportunity to provide you the service you expect. We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you on board a future United Airlines flight."
...I shall know in a few days what compensation my husband and I will receive. I will report back. Thank you to those that provided advice and humor.
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Correct. Hit the call button as soon as you see/feel/smell the problem. This is one situation that WN handles very very well. If you insist on the space that is yours, the FA will likely solve your problem.
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As per the advice of a few FlyerTalker's, I did send an email. I received a quick response...
"Thank you for contacting United Airlines. Your e-mail came to my attention in our Executive Offices on behalf of Mr. Smisek.
I apologize for the difficulties you experienced during your flight with us. It certainly was never our intention for you to share your seat with another passenger.
Customers should always be treated with dignity and respect, as we strive to provide safe and comfortable accommodations for all our valued customers.
Customers who are unable to sit with armrests down and seatbelts fastened without encroaching on adjacent seating space will be required to purchase an additional ticket. We are not required to provide additional seats or upgrades free of charge. Our Inflight staff is often successful in arranging alternative seating for customers in these situations. Again, I am truly sorry we were unable to meet your needs that day.
I will include your comments in our monthly Customer Care report for internal review.
The situation you described for the second leg of your trip is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.
Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. Your feedback will be used in future coaching and training as we continue to improve our service.
As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you and your husband electronic travel certificates via separate e-mail that may be used toward your next purchase. Please allow 3-5 business days for processing.
Please give us an opportunity to provide you the service you expect. We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you on board a future United Airlines flight."
...I shall know in a few days what compensation my husband and I will receive. I will report back. Thank you to those that provided advice and humor.
"Thank you for contacting United Airlines. Your e-mail came to my attention in our Executive Offices on behalf of Mr. Smisek.
I apologize for the difficulties you experienced during your flight with us. It certainly was never our intention for you to share your seat with another passenger.
Customers should always be treated with dignity and respect, as we strive to provide safe and comfortable accommodations for all our valued customers.
Customers who are unable to sit with armrests down and seatbelts fastened without encroaching on adjacent seating space will be required to purchase an additional ticket. We are not required to provide additional seats or upgrades free of charge. Our Inflight staff is often successful in arranging alternative seating for customers in these situations. Again, I am truly sorry we were unable to meet your needs that day.
I will include your comments in our monthly Customer Care report for internal review.
The situation you described for the second leg of your trip is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.
Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. Your feedback will be used in future coaching and training as we continue to improve our service.
As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you and your husband electronic travel certificates via separate e-mail that may be used toward your next purchase. Please allow 3-5 business days for processing.
Please give us an opportunity to provide you the service you expect. We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you on board a future United Airlines flight."
...I shall know in a few days what compensation my husband and I will receive. I will report back. Thank you to those that provided advice and humor.
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Pull cord to stop the press. UA replies this promptly & relevantly?
As per the advice of a few FlyerTalker's, I did send an email. I received a quick response...
"Thank you for contacting United Airlines. Your e-mail came to my attention in our Executive Offices on behalf of Mr. Smisek.
I apologize for the difficulties you experienced during your flight with us. It certainly was never our intention for you to share your seat with another passenger.
Customers should always be treated with dignity and respect, as we strive to provide safe and comfortable accommodations for all our valued customers.
Customers who are unable to sit with armrests down and seatbelts fastened without encroaching on adjacent seating space will be required to purchase an additional ticket. We are not required to provide additional seats or upgrades free of charge. Our Inflight staff is often successful in arranging alternative seating for customers in these situations. Again, I am truly sorry we were unable to meet your needs that day.
I will include your comments in our monthly Customer Care report for internal review.
The situation you described for the second leg of your trip is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.
Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. Your feedback will be used in future coaching and training as we continue to improve our service.
As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you and your husband electronic travel certificates via separate e-mail that may be used toward your next purchase. Please allow 3-5 business days for processing.
Please give us an opportunity to provide you the service you expect. We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you on board a future United Airlines flight."
...I shall know in a few days what compensation my husband and I will receive. I will report back. Thank you to those that provided advice and humor.
"Thank you for contacting United Airlines. Your e-mail came to my attention in our Executive Offices on behalf of Mr. Smisek.
I apologize for the difficulties you experienced during your flight with us. It certainly was never our intention for you to share your seat with another passenger.
Customers should always be treated with dignity and respect, as we strive to provide safe and comfortable accommodations for all our valued customers.
Customers who are unable to sit with armrests down and seatbelts fastened without encroaching on adjacent seating space will be required to purchase an additional ticket. We are not required to provide additional seats or upgrades free of charge. Our Inflight staff is often successful in arranging alternative seating for customers in these situations. Again, I am truly sorry we were unable to meet your needs that day.
I will include your comments in our monthly Customer Care report for internal review.
The situation you described for the second leg of your trip is not reflective of our commitment to providing our customers the highest level of service. I apologize for the negative impression this situation created. We intend to provide a high-quality experience, tailored to meet the individual needs of our passengers.
Based on your comments, we did not meet your expectations, and I regret you were not satisfied with the service provided. Your feedback will be used in future coaching and training as we continue to improve our service.
As a gesture of goodwill, I am sending you and your husband electronic travel certificates via separate e-mail that may be used toward your next purchase. Please allow 3-5 business days for processing.
Please give us an opportunity to provide you the service you expect. We appreciate your business and look forward to welcoming you on board a future United Airlines flight."
...I shall know in a few days what compensation my husband and I will receive. I will report back. Thank you to those that provided advice and humor.
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Now, DirtyDan's mom is a big girl and for that reason I always sponsor her seat up to the front. I realise that's not an option for everyone. On a commercial flight, I'm sure I would handle the situation a little more delicately than on an oilfield chopper but we are certainly well within our rights to request our own un-invaded seat.
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That will really be amazing.
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#43
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This is an interesting thread, with useful suggestions. I always try to get an exit-row seat, but exit rows seem to be magnets for COSs (great acronym!) and linebacker types with huge shoulders (or those who fit in both categories simultaneously). The linebackers are the worst because their shoulders are much more rigid than [COS'] waists and arms, and are not restrained by armrests.
The restrictions about some people having to buy two seats should apply in both cases, but I doubt GA's and FA's will apply it to the latter.
The restrictions about some people having to buy two seats should apply in both cases, but I doubt GA's and FA's will apply it to the latter.
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#45
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Funny story happened to me flying IAD-LHR a few months back. I boarded and took my exit row seat. The config of Y was xx-xxxxx-xx. An older german couple boards the plane and is trying to find their seat. The wife sits behind me and the husband sits next to me. Then I noticed he has only one arm! (He is wearing a prothesis).
Few problems
1. He doesn't speak and english
2. he only has one arm and I doubt he would be able to assist in an emergency.
About 5 minutes later another pax comes and says that HE is sitting next to me. The german man gets up and eventually ends up 3 rows back somewhere int he middle. No where close!
Few problems
1. He doesn't speak and english
2. he only has one arm and I doubt he would be able to assist in an emergency.
About 5 minutes later another pax comes and says that HE is sitting next to me. The german man gets up and eventually ends up 3 rows back somewhere int he middle. No where close!