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LarkSFO Jan 25, 2013 7:22 pm

Again?

Winecountry, where should this be merged?

WineCountryUA Jan 25, 2013 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 20125501)
.... My question for your discussion is will UA delay implementation of the 2013 MP program past Feb. 1? ...

no and no reason to think so.


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 20125501)
....Might UA be making some 11th hour changes to the 2013 MP program that could delay its implementation?
.... be causing UA management to rethink and revise their planned 2013 MP program details?
.... Here's hoping we have a much-improved 2013 MP program that will please many members. ....

seem more wishful thinking than speculation

there has been more announced already than you may realize
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...eage-plus.html

or

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...eculation.html on why no formal big bang announcement

mkr Jan 25, 2013 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20125517)
no and no reason to think so.

seem more wishful thinking than speculation

there has been more announced already than you may realize
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...eage-plus.html

or

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...eculation.html on why no formal big bang announcement

Thanks WineCountryUA. However, this is not speculation on what might be in the program, as others have already speculated in the thread above you quoted. This is a new track for discussion. I'm asking if the program might be delayed with 11th hour changes for the several reasons cited.

vandalby Jan 25, 2013 7:48 pm

No, it's not going to be delayed. They've already sent out 2013 credentials. Last year's delay was driven by the integration of the two legacy programs.

mkr Jan 25, 2013 8:09 pm


Originally Posted by vandalby (Post 20125603)
No, it's not going to be delayed. They've already sent out 2013 credentials...

Just because they have sent out plastic cards and booklets for 2013 already does not preclude that they might be making 11th hour changes to the 2013 MP program. Would they perhaps wait a few extra days to announce such possible changes when finalized, or start the program and then a few days later announce several new changes? The new Premier status earned in 2012 for 2013 began when achieved in 2012 and carries through for 2013 until a higher Premier status might be earned in 2013. Persons are already receiving 2012 MP program Premier benefits for Premier status earned in 2012. Last year, they extended 2011 benefits until the 2012 program was official.

WineCountryUA Jan 25, 2013 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 20125571)
Thanks WineCountryUA. However, this is not speculation on what might be in the program, as others have already speculated in the thread above you quoted. This is a new track for discussion. I'm asking if the program might be delayed with 11th hour changes for the several reasons cited.

there were two links -- what had been announced and the speculation thread which includes a long discussion on why there have not been a big bang announce (which is pertinent to your question).

The killer to idea of a delayed announcement is the 2013 program benefits booklet have been printed and delivered -- I got mine a week ago.
There is no delay in announcing, there was just no big announced since there there were hardly any changes. UA Insider specifically stated the partner earning changes were delayed until the start of the 2013 program.

It appears changes are not being rolled up to a single announcement but rather announced as they are "ready" (some might question the readiness issue).

There is no visible action suggesting a delay announcement ad everything to date suggesting a no plans for a big bang announcement. But just MHO.


Originally Posted by mkr (Post 20125695)
Just because they have sent out plastic cards and booklets for 2013 already does not preclude that they might be making 11th hour changes to the 2013 MP program. Would they perhaps wait a few extra days to announce such possible changes when finalized, or start the program and then a few days later announce several new changes? The new Premier status earned in 2012 for 2013 began when achieved in 2012 and carries through for 2013 until a higher Premier status might be earned in 2013. Persons are already receiving 2012 MP program Premier benefits for Premier status earned in 2012. ...

this seems to be ignoring the facts and speculating based on what?

Originally Posted by mkr (Post 20125695)
... Last year, they extended 2011 benefits until the 2012 program was official.

yes before 2012 started they announced a delay but we are ready in 2013 and no announcements on a delay

mkr Jan 25, 2013 9:33 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20125919)
......
It appears changes are not being rolled up to a single announcement but rather announced as they are "ready" (some might question the readiness issue).

Yes, I question readiness....part of my speculation as to a possible delay or 11th hour changes.


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20125919)
......There is no visible action suggesting a delay announcement ad everything to date suggesting a no plans for a big bang announcement. But just MHO.

bolding above mine....correct, no visible action....what may be taking place "behind the scenes" with possible 11th hour changes certainly would not be made "visible".


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20125919)
....The killer to idea of a delayed announcement is the 2013 program benefits booklet have been printed and delivered -- I got mine a week ago.

I got my 1K booklet about a month ago. So what? Last year was a fiasco of getting the booklets and membership cards getting delivered in a timely fashion which upset many UA MP members. So UA learned from that and sped up the delivery this time around. I am glad they learned. There are many details left out of the booklet and UA refers the members to look at the website for more complete details. Just for example, in the booklet there is no mention about the 2013 policy for upgrading a companion, nor any reference to upgrade priority. Are these among many details still being deliberated? What about the long-promised "more transparency" for the upgrade process? There is nothing in the booklet. Will that be announced on the UA website whenever the FINAL 2013 MP program details are announced? Is this transparency policy still being debated behind the scenes?

And remember, UA can change any aspect of MP at any time!


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20125919)
....this seems to be ignoring the facts and speculating based on what?
yes before 2012 started they announced a delay but we are ready in 2013 and no announcements on a delay

yes, we are already in 2013 with a week to go before Feb 1...and no announcements on a delay....and also no final announcement on the 2013 program, which is a "fact" also. Thanks for offering your opinions, and I hope you are correct.


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