Why is Mr. Chicken (the check-in kiosk) so darn slow?
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Why is Mr. Chicken (the check-in kiosk) so darn slow?
All of the kiosks seem very slow, but particularly the CO-style thermal paper ones (vs. thermal cardstock). At RSW last week, one gentleman walked away without ever getting his BPs (the next pax said, "Hey, this thing is stuck... no, wait, it's printing that guy's stuff finally!"), and my experience was 50 seconds for the first BP and another 35 for the 2nd (yes, I timed it).
I know PMUA's kiosks weren't ever this slow, and IIRC, the PMCO ones, though slower, were nonetheless significantly faster than what we see now.
What gives?
I know PMUA's kiosks weren't ever this slow, and IIRC, the PMCO ones, though slower, were nonetheless significantly faster than what we see now.
What gives?
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COdbaUA has invested in cameras for these; they are reading the degree of frustration on your face as you wait for your boarding pass. They will use this information to determine which customers they can put through the most irrops/lost baggage/missed upgrades/lack of award availability/high prices without losing them.
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Would you rather the airline goes back to the days of agents hand-writing each and every boarding pass? How's that for lines?
If I had to guess (and I have no idea how UA's machines actually work) - an image of the boarding pass is created in Houston or Chicago or wherever the kiosk is communicating with and then that entire image file has to be downloaded to the kiosk for printing. The image includes the logo, seat data, flight data, etc. etc. It could be that it takes a long time to create the image on the mainframe, or it takes a long time to download it, or it takes a long time to render it on the kiosk. Does anyone know what kind of data connection the kiosks have back to the data center? Is it fiber, cable modem (shared amongst all kiosks), 56K dial-up? I'm betting on slow
-RM
If I had to guess (and I have no idea how UA's machines actually work) - an image of the boarding pass is created in Houston or Chicago or wherever the kiosk is communicating with and then that entire image file has to be downloaded to the kiosk for printing. The image includes the logo, seat data, flight data, etc. etc. It could be that it takes a long time to create the image on the mainframe, or it takes a long time to download it, or it takes a long time to render it on the kiosk. Does anyone know what kind of data connection the kiosks have back to the data center? Is it fiber, cable modem (shared amongst all kiosks), 56K dial-up? I'm betting on slow
-RM
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Would you rather the airline goes back to the days of agents hand-writing each and every boarding pass? How's that for lines?
If I had to guess (and I have no idea how UA's machines actually work) - an image of the boarding pass is created in Houston or Chicago or wherever the kiosk is communicating with and then that entire image file has to be downloaded to the kiosk for printing. The image includes the logo, seat data, flight data, etc. etc. It could be that it takes a long time to create the image on the mainframe, or it takes a long time to download it, or it takes a long time to render it on the kiosk. Does anyone know what kind of data connection the kiosks have back to the data center? Is it fiber, cable modem (shared amongst all kiosks), 56K dial-up? I'm betting on slow
-RM
If I had to guess (and I have no idea how UA's machines actually work) - an image of the boarding pass is created in Houston or Chicago or wherever the kiosk is communicating with and then that entire image file has to be downloaded to the kiosk for printing. The image includes the logo, seat data, flight data, etc. etc. It could be that it takes a long time to create the image on the mainframe, or it takes a long time to download it, or it takes a long time to render it on the kiosk. Does anyone know what kind of data connection the kiosks have back to the data center? Is it fiber, cable modem (shared amongst all kiosks), 56K dial-up? I'm betting on slow
-RM
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All of the kiosks seem very slow, but particularly the CO-style thermal paper ones (vs. thermal cardstock). At RSW last week, one gentleman walked away without ever getting his BPs (the next pax said, "Hey, this thing is stuck... no, wait, it's printing that guy's stuff finally!"), and my experience was 50 seconds for the first BP and another 35 for the 2nd (yes, I timed it).
I know PMUA's kiosks weren't ever this slow, and IIRC, the PMCO ones, though slower, were nonetheless significantly faster than what we see now.
What gives?
I know PMUA's kiosks weren't ever this slow, and IIRC, the PMCO ones, though slower, were nonetheless significantly faster than what we see now.
What gives?
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The kiosks that were legacy CO seem to operate at a reasonable speed, maybe a little slower than before but not dramatically so. The kiosks that were legacy UA are now far slower than they were before they were converted - not sure what has caused the change but it can be annoying.
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That's a tough one...I flew on 3/3 and was checked in by hand. I still have my handwritten boarding passes. It was one of the easiest and quickest checkin processes I have ever experienced...
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I haven't flown for 3 months, then flew 4 times in quick succession this month. The kiosks (PMUA FWIW) were noticeably slower during the last 2 weeks, and the one at ORF last week was just spinning its little wheel over and over so I gave up.
Which made me appreciate the F class checkin agent's telling me"use the kiosk" even more. Yeah right lady. I'm standing in the F line because I fly so much that I got upgraded (after all, who in their right mind would PAY for F on a tiny regional jet), which means that if I'm not using the frickin' kiosk, it means THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT AND I NEED YOUR HELP. One of us is indeed stupid, and here's a teeny hint: it's not me.
Which made me appreciate the F class checkin agent's telling me"use the kiosk" even more. Yeah right lady. I'm standing in the F line because I fly so much that I got upgraded (after all, who in their right mind would PAY for F on a tiny regional jet), which means that if I'm not using the frickin' kiosk, it means THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH IT AND I NEED YOUR HELP. One of us is indeed stupid, and here's a teeny hint: it's not me.