craz

I hear ya and understand why you said this, however most likley it wont affect UAs finest, simply since most likely they didnt have say 1k in their accts but most likely 100s of 1000s and therefore UA withdrew the proper amount and not just 4 miles.

But even if they didnt have enough to pay the actual amount if all they cashed in for was 1 tkt then Id think UA shouldnt go after them. But for those who cashed in for 10s of tkts either for themselves or their entire extended family then I agree with you especially if they went to DOT or filed a law suit . If someone cashed in for 2 tkts for themselves and their spouse or SO then UA shouldnt throw the book at them if it was a simple US-HKG Itin, but if they booked flying all around Asia and or Europe UA should throw the book at them.

That said COdbaUA is no Favorite of mine but for now I cant divorce her, it would work against me. I just hope that with all that has happened since 3/3that Jeff comes down off his High Horse and starts looking at not what is the cheapest way to run this Airline but instead starts thinking what do we NEED to do to make sure this Airline is #1 in all facets

dsquared37

UA and DoT colluding. Riiiiigggggghhhhhhttttttt.

So now there's an underlying 'needs' test? At least your posts are predictable.

Playing devils advocate here:

When the fox gets the sheep all is well. When the sheep traps the fox the fox gets to say "whoa, let's go back to the beginning, this ain't right."?

We have posters on one side talking DoT complaint and lawsuits, which I think is premature. We have others prominently desiring UA to cancel MP accounts and blacklist these people which is just a tad vindictive. Just a tad......

We also have a number of posters, like me, who didn't partake in the purchase and are quite entertained at all that is going on.

Forget the popcorn, I'm sitting down with a few bottles of vodka and a case of soda water. This is gonna be interesting watch play out.

BigPoppaCO

It's a shame SHARES sucks otherwise it would be great if they could notate every person who took advantage of the deal and go out of their way to apply every rule to the letter of the law. No exceptions. No breaks. No favors. As punitive as possible.

harry1

An oversold situation could be the result of a computer buggage, similar to a scenario that would allow the purchase of a 4 mile F ticket to HNK.

I see it this way, if an F cabin is oversold, someone needs to be moved. Depending on the cost of the seat, compensation could be 160K miles, or 4 miles, Plus a Y seat of course.

Would it be bad form on UA's part, absolutely. But oversells in premium cabins, while rare have occurred.

dsquared37

Why so vindictive? How does this hurt you?

colpuck

If you think there are going less of these mistakes if the DOT sides with United then you are in denial. United will start abusing a favorable ruling the second it comes out.

apk123

I think he is worried his poppa won't fit well in the Y seat when his upgrades won't clear because of us

bitachu

i'm just waiting for my 5,000 AA miles provided by Cartera for my hockey puck

84fiero

^

For all the finger-wagging over people upset at UA, the nastiness toward those who bought these tickets is just as bad on this thread.

murphyUA

What are you talking about?

First, you obviously didn't understand what I said. All I said was this is the first time (at least to my knowledge) something like this has ever happened.

Secondly, please enlighten me as to why United would do this on purpose (which is what you are insinuating, I believe)?

ffI

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Clarification. I think FTG was just saying that it was discriminating to those who could not fly at once day before yesterday. Although it appears that it was hia age that slowed him down so that he could not fly at once without other arrangements, but not that his age was specifically discriminated against..

You gotta READ these things you know...
I understand the mods making new threads out of it does not help, but still....
I am a little miffed - my best OP.
They took the godzilla of threads and bwoke my thread baby apart......

I have not had this much fun with a thread since the US share promos of 2009.

teddy25

where should DOT draw the line on the size of the error, for honoring the tickets?

4 miles?
40 miles?
400 miles?
4,000 miles?
40,000 miles?

Will the people say it is unethical to travel on the 4 miles fare be ok with a 40, 400, or 4000 miles mistake fare?

you can NOT tell me 4,000 or even 40,0000 miles for first class round trip tickets to HKG is ethical if you think 4 is unethical. what is the difference if you know a big error made by the United's IT department?

would you have taken advantage of the error at 4,000 or 40,000 miles?

I just don't see any difference. going 40 mph or 50 mph on a 30 mph road are both speeding.

samwkchan

I agree that UA should follow all rules set by DOT. (Full disclosure: I didn't take any advantage of this 4-mile redemption.)

It is a country with rules. All rules are well written by DOT and have come into play for some time. In other words, UA should have known the rules and get advised by their legal department, so they should follow rules unless they don't want to play this game (their business) anymore.

Some of you may sympathize UA on the potential great loss by this silly mistake. Honestly, I feel sorry about this but it is a business world. If a company gets bankrupt solely because of a wrong transaction, I will feel sorry about it, but the transaction cannot be reversed at the expense of others who obey rules to take advantages.

ffI

I am flying incognito and in spirit only.
I was busy so I booked a free trip for my brother and his friend
Used my friends acct with 100 miles. No risk of 70k miles being taken later.
So who is going to punish me or my brother?
UA with no upgrades - he does not get any anyway. I am not flying -
could not get off work - else I would have flown day before yesterday.
I want to file for worker discrimination as those of us with real full time jobs could not fly at once to Hong Kong or China.
My name is not on ticket. So who is going to punish me with the law for what?

milski

Secure Flight Program requires a date of birth, besides other details. Yes, it's a rather silly complaint but UAL does know your age.