TOD offered on intl flight?
Jun 17, 2012, 3:44 pm
#2
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There is already a consolidated thread for posting of TOD offers so I'm not sure if the moderators will eliminate this and shift it into that thread. In any case, I am curious to know about TODs on international flights as well, since this frankly is the only UG situation that I really care about. The loss of UG opportunities in the US is small in comparison with being forced to endure E hell for > 10 hours.
If anyone posts responses, I request/suggest more information:
date of travel
origin - destination
fare class / fare
amount of tod offer
how and when offer was given (i.e. web, mobile, email, check-in) and T-x
status of flyer
same information about other parties also flying
flight #
If anyone posts responses, I request/suggest more information:
date of travel
origin - destination
fare class / fare
amount of tod offer
how and when offer was given (i.e. web, mobile, email, check-in) and T-x
status of flyer
same information about other parties also flying
flight #
Jun 17, 2012, 5:27 pm
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I fly TPAC a couple of times a year, and have NEVER been offered anything that did not involve at least five Benjamins.
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Jun 17, 2012, 6:04 pm
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Jun 17, 2012, 8:26 pm
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SFO > SYD was ~$2100 to upgrade to C. I don't think UA wants to dilute the cabin with ToDs on those flights. Cheapest I have ever gotten was at the gate asking for miles + cash, which was the classic 30k + $600, or $1200 without miles.
Hey, I just realized that either way that's valuing the miles at $.02 each ^
Cheers,
Adam
Hey, I just realized that either way that's valuing the miles at $.02 each ^
Cheers,
Adam
Jun 17, 2012, 8:35 pm
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I think for international the nomenclature has become "HODS" (hundreds of dollars) recognizing that even the bean hoarders at UA would not be so foolish as to sell an international C ticket upgrade for less than $100.
Jun 18, 2012, 2:54 pm
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Typically pre 3/3 TPAC UFCs were offered $500 to $900. Now they are offered $1500 to $2000. I'm sure UA will look at the number, but my guess is that at $500 to $900 the number of upgraders is small but significant. At $1500 to $2000 it's approximately zero, i.e. the old international UFC policy made more money for UA than the current one where they only sell upgrades for the fare differential.
Jun 18, 2012, 2:55 pm
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I fly TPAC a couple of times a year, and have NEVER been offered anything that did not involve at least five Benjamins.
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I'd consider $500-600 to be TOD for these purposes. If a kettle can pay $700 for a RT TPAC or TATL itinerary and then get a seat in C that would otherwise have cost $7,000, and meanwhile force the 1K into the back of the plane because his or her instrument didn't clear on waitlist, then, that should qualify as a TOD.
Typically pre 3/3 TPAC UFCs were offered $500 to $900. Now they are offered $1500 to $2000. I'm sure UA will look at the number, but my guess is that at $500 to $900 the number of upgraders is small but significant. At $1500 to $2000 it's approximately zero, i.e. the old international UFC policy made more money for UA than the current one where they only sell upgrades for the fare differential.
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Jun 18, 2012, 3:17 pm
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The basic issue with the TOD process is that super-cheap UG are sold to non-members while 1K's cannot clear with instruments. If the super-cheap offer is made to a 1K, then I think it's fair game, though it does cause GPU to be worth something extremely close to zero.
I'd consider $500-600 to be TOD for these purposes. If a kettle can pay $700 for a RT TPAC or TATL itinerary and then get a seat in C that would otherwise have cost $7,000, and meanwhile force the 1K into the back of the plane because his or her instrument didn't clear on waitlist, then, that should qualify as a TOD.
I'd consider $500-600 to be TOD for these purposes. If a kettle can pay $700 for a RT TPAC or TATL itinerary and then get a seat in C that would otherwise have cost $7,000, and meanwhile force the 1K into the back of the plane because his or her instrument didn't clear on waitlist, then, that should qualify as a TOD.
Even the TOTODs seem to be mythical, though.
Jun 18, 2012, 3:35 pm
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