Recording of UA First Class Customer being ignored by Customer Service in IAH
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Regardless of where UA is headquartered/incorporated, it operates subject to the local laws of the places where it does business, to the extent that those laws don't conflict with federal law. Congress has allowed the states to determine whether consent of both parties is required for the recording of a conversation. Texas has opted to be a "one-party state," so the taping isn't illegal.
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IME, when dealing with anyone who is angry/arrogant/a55holish is to kill them with kindness. It has always worked for me.
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Kinda bothered by the bloggers statement on his website as below
Kinda self entiltled.
Well, here's hoping that the words "I don't believe you" never comes out of her mouth again when addressing a customer. This situation is a prime example of how the United States airline industry has forgotten the adage "customer is always right." Whether or not the customer is really right is insignificant. The fact of the matter is, the customer is the one that pays for the service. Without the customer's money, there would be no business, hence there would be no job.
United Airlines has also offered some compensation for the incident.
Kinda self entiltled.
Well, here's hoping that the words "I don't believe you" never comes out of her mouth again when addressing a customer. This situation is a prime example of how the United States airline industry has forgotten the adage "customer is always right." Whether or not the customer is really right is insignificant. The fact of the matter is, the customer is the one that pays for the service. Without the customer's money, there would be no business, hence there would be no job.
United Airlines has also offered some compensation for the incident.
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Not in defence of the agent's actions (or the customer's either) but finding out what a flight WAS booked to at a previous time is not possble by a UA CSR. One can tell what it is currently booked to, but after departure, as reservations are cncld and people are rebooked, knowing what the booking levels at departure is not within our abilities. Many things change as soon as the flight departs. It may be possible that someone at WHQ could find that out, I'm not sure. Her reply was that it went out full. Be it standby passengers that occupied the person's seat, or maybe it was overbooked, is not known to us (the viewers) at this time.
If there is a problem at a gate, it would seem logical for an experienced travelr, such as the blogger claims to be, to try and resolve it at the gate with the people who arefamilliar with the details of the flight. Every day, I get dozens of questions from passengers about flights tat I am not working. I can answer some of them, but many of them are operational questions that don't have answers that can be found without working the trip itself. I'm curious as to why the OP gave up so easily at the gate and decided to make an example of someone who had no experince with his exact situation.
If there is a problem at a gate, it would seem logical for an experienced travelr, such as the blogger claims to be, to try and resolve it at the gate with the people who arefamilliar with the details of the flight. Every day, I get dozens of questions from passengers about flights tat I am not working. I can answer some of them, but many of them are operational questions that don't have answers that can be found without working the trip itself. I'm curious as to why the OP gave up so easily at the gate and decided to make an example of someone who had no experince with his exact situation.
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What time did the traveller get to the gate?
What was said before the recording?
The traveller seemed to hve more than one boarding card. Were there others involved?
What was said before the recording?
The traveller seemed to hve more than one boarding card. Were there others involved?
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Also, it is possible, but incredibly (very incredibly) rare to overbook1st class on a narrow body plane. The person was able to change to the earlier flight, s I kind of doubt that his cabin was oversold. Again, it's possible, but very very very unlikely. He has exact times of whenhe arrived at the airport, security... Most people don't keep a record of times as they happen UNLESS they realize they are most likely already too late, and then thy start the doccumenting after the fact (as he did with his camera...he din't doccument the actuual cause or the incident for which he decided to make a big deal about, h taped the aftermath.)
I'm not familliar with IAH arport enough to know if his times are realistic. Those times are not realstic for my airport, but each airport is different, so I can't claim his times to be made up, but can sure question their authenticity.
I'm not familliar with IAH arport enough to know if his times are realistic. Those times are not realstic for my airport, but each airport is different, so I can't claim his times to be made up, but can sure question their authenticity.
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I don't know what to think about this. He may have been a first-class [jerk] and she just gave up on him. I also don't trust "bloggers" who think they're reporters.
However, she should have just put on her best smile, and in her sweetest voice said, "I'm sorry, but I can't figure out the best way to help you. I've called over my supervisor and he'll be here in a minute to sort this out. I'm really sorry to inconvenience you."
However, she should have just put on her best smile, and in her sweetest voice said, "I'm sorry, but I can't figure out the best way to help you. I've called over my supervisor and he'll be here in a minute to sort this out. I'm really sorry to inconvenience you."
Very possible she said exactly that.
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However, she should have just put on her best smile, and in her sweetest voice said, "I'm sorry, but I can't figure out the best way to help you. I've called over my supervisor and he'll be here in a minute to sort this out. I'm really sorry to inconvenience you."
And if he persists, simply say that again. And there's a good chance she did this, before the camera came on. In which case, she's 100% right.
And if he persists, simply say that again. And there's a good chance she did this, before the camera came on. In which case, she's 100% right.
In order to credibly expose them when they're truly wrong, we need to keep people from crying Wolf.
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Per flighaware the flight departed 12 minutes late at 4:20. Is the departure when the doors are closed or when the flight takes off?
I have been flying for 10 years and never been on a flight where the doors are closed and plane pushes back 23 minutes to departure. 10 minutes on occasion but never 20+.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/U...108Z/KIAH/KLAS
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Besides, I thought with SHARES it was impossible to dispatch a flight on-time unless you had 17 agents working the flight and boarding started 54 minutes and 12 seconds prior to departure.
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The proper way to deal with the situation is to acknowledge the customer, explain to/tell them that you will be calling your supervisor over to assist them and then ask if they could step aside until the supervisor arrives so you can assist other customers. That's how it's taught and how it should be (n.b. should be) done and with that, it puts a positive spin on the customer service rep as if done the way you state, you have what was recorded
Yes but only after what I said above.
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Respectfully, that may not be the case... you have to consider the "chess" mindset of the customer who has pre-determined any possible counter-moves. The guy was actively instigating an escalation (IMO, of course)