Do Reward Ticket changes require full rebooking/reticketing?
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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Do Reward Ticket changes require full rebooking/reticketing?
Let's say I book an award ticket and want to make a change later on. (different cabin class, different airline, etc). Will I have to give up the entire r/t ticket in order to do this and then am only able to re-ticket at current available inventory?
I read many conflicting things about this. Does it matter the type of change or is it more a function of the Rep you speak to on the phone knowing how to properly make the change?
Ideally, I would like to book reward ticket to Europe, and a week or so prior to the trip change to first class on either LX or LH if it becomes available (I realize the fees involved). But would not want to potentially give up all the other legs I am booked on.
What's the definitive word on this post merger? Thanks
I read many conflicting things about this. Does it matter the type of change or is it more a function of the Rep you speak to on the phone knowing how to properly make the change?
Ideally, I would like to book reward ticket to Europe, and a week or so prior to the trip change to first class on either LX or LH if it becomes available (I realize the fees involved). But would not want to potentially give up all the other legs I am booked on.
What's the definitive word on this post merger? Thanks
#2
Join Date: Nov 2002
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I posted something similarly here.
As a Platinum or higher (for me anyway, not sure what your status is) who doesn't need a stopover I'm thinking one ways are the way to go...
As a Platinum or higher (for me anyway, not sure what your status is) who doesn't need a stopover I'm thinking one ways are the way to go...
#3
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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I would like to be able to book r/t to take advantage of the stop over.
I thought I had previously read that people have been able to make changes like I described above without having to give up their current tickets. Although that contradicts what you said in your post. That's why I'm looking for someone with a lot of experience with this, is there an official policy or it just luck of draw on who you speak to??
I thought I had previously read that people have been able to make changes like I described above without having to give up their current tickets. Although that contradicts what you said in your post. That's why I'm looking for someone with a lot of experience with this, is there an official policy or it just luck of draw on who you speak to??
#4
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: EWR, USA, AA 1MM Gold, United Premier Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Emerald Club Executive
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I would like to be able to book r/t to take advantage of the stop over.
I thought I had previously read that people have been able to make changes like I described above without having to give up their current tickets. Although that contradicts what you said in your post. That's why I'm looking for someone with a lot of experience with this, is there an official policy or it just luck of draw on who you speak to??
I thought I had previously read that people have been able to make changes like I described above without having to give up their current tickets. Although that contradicts what you said in your post. That's why I'm looking for someone with a lot of experience with this, is there an official policy or it just luck of draw on who you speak to??
#6
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Join Date: Mar 2010
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I am interested in know if individual segments can be easily changed (fully understanding fees & mileage deltas) without having to give up all the other legs of the trip and rebook based on current available inventory.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Thanks, but I am not concerned with having to pay (or get a refund) of the mileage difference.
I am interested in know if individual segments can be easily changed (fully understanding fees & mileage deltas) without having to give up all the other legs of the trip and rebook based on current available inventory.
I am interested in know if individual segments can be easily changed (fully understanding fees & mileage deltas) without having to give up all the other legs of the trip and rebook based on current available inventory.
But if you're not concern with fee, then no problem at all.
But keep in mind, after changing your itinerary, always confirm with the actual airline, even though united insist that the change has been confirmed.
Last edited by tomy77; Mar 28, 2012 at 3:29 pm
#8
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
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Here's what I did two nights ago. Took two phone calls (l-o-n-g wait times). Not quite the same situation as the OP but may be useful to others.
Original saver r/t economy award: SFO-HNL-stopover-HNL-GUM-ROR/ROR-GUM-NRT. I wanted to convert this to an open jaw as follows:
Outbound: SFO-HNL-stopover-GUM-ROR
Inbound: NRT-SFO
And insert a saver first class one-way award: ROR-MNL-SIN-NRT
The first agent said what I wanted to do was permitted but she couldn't convert my r/t award to open jaw and add in the second one-way saver first award in the same itinerary due to "system issues". She also told me she couldn't see the award availability on her system on Singapore Airlines between MNL and SIN but I had it on the UA Mileage Plus award booking website. She recommended I leave my r/t award intact, book the one-way saver award online, then call back and have the r/t converted to open jaw and link the two PNRs together.
So that's what I did. I successfully booked the one way saver first award. Then called MP back (60 minutes on hold). Agent was able to convert my round trip saver economy award to open jaw and link my two PNRs together. Only snag was the fare desk was taking forever to compute the additional taxes. Agent took my number and promised to call back within 30 minutes to finalize the booking. Which, to my surprise, he did.
So now I have:
SFO-HNL (stopover)
HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM
GUM-ROR (destination)
ROR-MNL (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
MNL-SIN (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
SIN-NRT (destination)
NRT-SFO
Original saver r/t economy award: SFO-HNL-stopover-HNL-GUM-ROR/ROR-GUM-NRT. I wanted to convert this to an open jaw as follows:
Outbound: SFO-HNL-stopover-GUM-ROR
Inbound: NRT-SFO
And insert a saver first class one-way award: ROR-MNL-SIN-NRT
The first agent said what I wanted to do was permitted but she couldn't convert my r/t award to open jaw and add in the second one-way saver first award in the same itinerary due to "system issues". She also told me she couldn't see the award availability on her system on Singapore Airlines between MNL and SIN but I had it on the UA Mileage Plus award booking website. She recommended I leave my r/t award intact, book the one-way saver award online, then call back and have the r/t converted to open jaw and link the two PNRs together.
So that's what I did. I successfully booked the one way saver first award. Then called MP back (60 minutes on hold). Agent was able to convert my round trip saver economy award to open jaw and link my two PNRs together. Only snag was the fare desk was taking forever to compute the additional taxes. Agent took my number and promised to call back within 30 minutes to finalize the booking. Which, to my surprise, he did.
So now I have:
SFO-HNL (stopover)
HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM
GUM-ROR (destination)
ROR-MNL (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
MNL-SIN (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
SIN-NRT (destination)
NRT-SFO
#9
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Here's what I did two nights ago. Took two phone calls (l-o-n-g wait times). Not quite the same situation as the OP but may be useful to others.
Original saver r/t economy award: SFO-HNL-stopover-HNL-GUM-ROR/ROR-GUM-NRT. I wanted to convert this to an open jaw as follows:
Outbound: SFO-HNL-stopover-GUM-ROR
Inbound: NRT-SFO
And insert a saver first class one-way award: ROR-MNL-SIN-NRT
The first agent said what I wanted to do was permitted but she couldn't convert my r/t award to open jaw and add in the second one-way saver first award in the same itinerary due to "system issues". She also told me she couldn't see the award availability on her system on Singapore Airlines between MNL and SIN but I had it on the UA Mileage Plus award booking website. She recommended I leave my r/t award intact, book the one-way saver award online, then call back and have the r/t converted to open jaw and link the two PNRs together.
So that's what I did. I successfully booked the one way saver first award. Then called MP back (60 minutes on hold). Agent was able to convert my round trip saver economy award to open jaw and link my two PNRs together. Only snag was the fare desk was taking forever to compute the additional taxes. Agent took my number and promised to call back within 30 minutes to finalize the booking. Which, to my surprise, he did.
So now I have:
SFO-HNL (stopover)
HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM
GUM-ROR (destination)
ROR-MNL (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
MNL-SIN (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
SIN-NRT (destination)
NRT-SFO
Original saver r/t economy award: SFO-HNL-stopover-HNL-GUM-ROR/ROR-GUM-NRT. I wanted to convert this to an open jaw as follows:
Outbound: SFO-HNL-stopover-GUM-ROR
Inbound: NRT-SFO
And insert a saver first class one-way award: ROR-MNL-SIN-NRT
The first agent said what I wanted to do was permitted but she couldn't convert my r/t award to open jaw and add in the second one-way saver first award in the same itinerary due to "system issues". She also told me she couldn't see the award availability on her system on Singapore Airlines between MNL and SIN but I had it on the UA Mileage Plus award booking website. She recommended I leave my r/t award intact, book the one-way saver award online, then call back and have the r/t converted to open jaw and link the two PNRs together.
So that's what I did. I successfully booked the one way saver first award. Then called MP back (60 minutes on hold). Agent was able to convert my round trip saver economy award to open jaw and link my two PNRs together. Only snag was the fare desk was taking forever to compute the additional taxes. Agent took my number and promised to call back within 30 minutes to finalize the booking. Which, to my surprise, he did.
So now I have:
SFO-HNL (stopover)
HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM
GUM-ROR (destination)
ROR-MNL (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
MNL-SIN (forced overnight/24 hour rule)
SIN-NRT (destination)
NRT-SFO
#10
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NYC, CLE
Programs: UA 1K, Starwood Platinum, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 108
You most definitely can. The problem is the fees usually (diff agent quote diff fee).
But if you're not concern with fee, then no problem at all.
But keep in mind, after changing your itinerary, always confirm with the actual airline, even though united insist that the change has been confirmed.
But if you're not concern with fee, then no problem at all.
But keep in mind, after changing your itinerary, always confirm with the actual airline, even though united insist that the change has been confirmed.
Of course, to be safe, I would always ask the agent if all other flights are safe/valid if I'm adding or dropping segments before they go ahead with the transaction.
#11
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Not a problem. You just tell them which segments you want to replace.
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#13
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