NewbieRunner

If you look further down the access rule page you should find that arriving UA F and C BPs give you access to the Welcome Lounge. Also if you check the Welcome Lounge thread in M&M forum you will find an image of the cheat sheet lounge staff use to check if pax are entitled to use the lounge. (I'm posting this on a handheld device and cannot provide links to the relevant pages easily.)

The best Senator Lounge is the new non-Schengen Lounge (near gate Z50) immediately above the Schengen Senator Lounge I mentioned earlier but I would go to the Welcome Lounge first.

p.s. Here's the actual text in question:
(2) The following passengers may also access the Lufthansa Welcome Lounge at Frankfurt Airport:
- Passengers of United Airlines (First and Business Class and Global Services cardholders) and Continental Airlines (Business Class) arriving in Frankfurt
- Passengers arriving in Frankfurt after a Lufthansa intercontinental flight (First and Business Class) via Dusseldorf or Munich

and here's the cheat sheet.

mh3265a

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DriukasLT

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@ORD

Where is the Lufthansa Welcome Lounge in FRA? Is it better than all the rest of Senators or Business Class lounge?

My apology if this is a dumb question asked and answered. I am travelling on award UA F ticket tomorrow.

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WineCountryUA

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/miles...ounge-fra.html

http://www.loungeguide.net/wiki/u/Fr...Welcome_Lounge

http://upgrd.com/matthew/lufthansa-w...frankfurt.html

NewbieRunner

The Welcome Lounge is landside on the arrival (baggage claim) level behind baggage claim B and marked W on this map.

The new Senator Lounge in Pier A+ is also very nice (has 10 showers as opposed to 20 in the Welcome Lounge) but you won't have access to a Senator Lounge on arrival unless you have a connecting flight on *A.

FT-hss

I am traveling in July coming back BOM-FRA (LH757-UA118). The ticket is a part of a longer itin. spanning June/July but this is the shortest connection among all others. Itin was booked using UA miles by UA agents. All confirmed. I looked up those flights online/FlightAware and they show Terminal 1 in FRA. I have no status nor global entry and neither do my family of 4. Is this going to be an issue? My next flight EWR-PHX (final destination) is after 7 hours. Any ideas/advice appreciated.

Side note: I have 4 UA club passes. On an itin PHX-YYC-FRA-BOM//BOM-FRA-EWR-PHX, where can I use them for best value?

FlyWorld

Is the entire ticket on one PNR?

I would not accept a 50 minute connection at FRA.

It really depends where you deplane and depart.

I've had multiple cases at FRA where the plane stops in a parking section, not pulling to a gate, then everyone goes to a bus, then the bus goes to a terminal then you have to change terminals then you have to walk through the terminal, to get to the gate.

This can take 30 minutes.

Add a delay into that mix?

If you pull up to a gate and you're on time and your UA flight is in the same terminal, then it is probably OK.

sannmann

Personally, I would have booked more time for a layover at FRA; however, 50 minutes may be doable. I think you'll only have to go through security. Hopefully, your aircraft will have gate positions, which will speed things up for you. Several hotels are located conveniently close to FRA, just in case you miss your flight and have to overnight.

You could use your club passes either at PHX or at EWR, as none of the other airports you'll be transiting have United Clubs. Using them at EWR may be a good idea, especially since you'll have such a long layover. However, note that they are "one-time" passes. If you leave the lounge, even to get real food (the carrots, cheese, and crackers in the lounge only go so far) you may not be allowed to return.

adambrau

I think coming into FRA from a longhaul you are more than likely to get a gate at FRA, but I have arrived at a remote stand on LH a few times from the US.

50 minutes is bare bones, and you are traveling with family does that mean small kids?

I haven't looked at the timetable for the summer but often there are 2 UA flights to EWR, maybe see if that is not the case the day you are traveling and see if you can't get a little more padding in FRA?

Worst comes to worst you will get rebooked, personally I would rather spend more time in FRA than 7 hours in EWR.

Either way, good luck. That is a long trip!


Adam

tods27

I'll second that 50 minutes is tight. With the new A/Z pier opening, there is a better chance that you will actually get gates for both flights. I would definitely call UA and see if you could change flights to the later UA FRA-EWR flight. You can always waitlist the UA flight.

The UA flights almost always depart from the Z gates these days, but if you get a bus gate for the BOM-FRA flight, they will most likely dump you at the B gates, necessitating a security check to get to the Z gates.

noah

50 minutes is feasible but not ideal.

That said, with a 7 hour layover in EWR, and a final destination of PHX, I think that UA/LH will get you where you need to go if you misconnect. There are a tremendous number of ways to get you from FRA to PHX that day -- through IAD, ORD, DEN, MIA, IAH, DFW, BOS not to mention LAX, SFO, SEA, YYZ, YVR. So, if they won't change it then don't sweat it and just be flexible.

htfdcolt

No WAY would I accept a 50 min connection in FRA...even if I was traveling alone, forget with kids. A 90 min connection time is marginal in that airport. Keep in mind they have the security interviews for US-bound flights which start 90 min in advance of departure time, and those lines can get very long if you don't have elite status.

UA900

UA club passes on this routing would be most useful at EWR if you appreciate a shower after the TATL leg. They are no good in FRA.

IMO you might want to call in at UA if you are *A Gold or if the trip is in J, because...

...FRA is a much nicer place to get stuck than EWR. Maybe you can re-reroute through LH via LAX or SFO to avoid the long domestic leg?

eflyte

50 min really pushing it. As others mention you'd better hope you get a gate and not a bus. Then there are some long and spaghetti-like terminals, it's gotten better as they've finished some construction in recent years but you might end up w a 10-15 min hike to the gate. You will have to go to the upper departure level, clear passport control (usually a waltz) and do the US security screening. I try to allow 90 min plus, especially since there are good lounge facilities, but have made 45 connections min w ideal conditions.